benpilot Posted May 27, 2013 Report Posted May 27, 2013 I am going to flew a few more Mooney models to see if it works for me long term. Most of the stuff from the Rocket I really liked. Quote
rob Posted May 27, 2013 Report Posted May 27, 2013 Why would you do that? From everything you've said, you weren't comfortable in the Mooney. You prefer the Bo cabin and the feel of the handling; and comfort is a priority for you. But now you really liked "most of the stuff?" The nature and content of your posts suggests that you're seeking attention and reaction. You don't live near (under) a bridge, do you? 1 Quote
DrBill Posted May 27, 2013 Report Posted May 27, 2013 Speed and Cost of flying must mean a lot to him. BILL Quote
benpilot Posted May 27, 2013 Author Report Posted May 27, 2013 Yeah getting far quickly is the point of flying. Otherwise most folks would drive. I will look into the long body Mooney and see if they fit me better. Controls might be lighter as well :-) I've heard Rocket is heavier in controls than other Mooney. Quote
wishboneash Posted May 27, 2013 Report Posted May 27, 2013 I am going to flew a few more Mooney models to see if it works for me long term. Most of the stuff from the Rocket I really liked. We are honored that you are giving our beloved Mooneys a second chance.... 4 Quote
benpilot Posted May 27, 2013 Author Report Posted May 27, 2013 I think folks misunderstood my review of the first Mooney I flew a 1979 Rocket. Never had anything bad on the plane, it is fast looks awesome just a bit tight for me and the heavier controls are different. I did not ever say that Mooney sucks. There are things I like and don't like about Cessna as well. I know that folks here are Mooniacs and believe their bird is better than sliced bread so relax :-) Quote
BigTex Posted May 27, 2013 Report Posted May 27, 2013 You seem obsessed with what you consider as "heavy controls." No offense Skynewbie but what would you know about heavy controls? From what I see, you're still learning to fly. Get your PPL and come back and we'll talk the finer points of flying. 3 Quote
co2bruce Posted May 27, 2013 Report Posted May 27, 2013 Long body Mooneys are heavier on the cotrols then the short body ones. I can't speak for the Rocket, but I have owned 201, 231, and now an Eagle. Quote
mikesalman Posted May 27, 2013 Report Posted May 27, 2013 I got my PPL Sept. 2012 and my first airplane a 1968 M20F Jan. 22 2013. I had a total of 125 hours flying time. During my training I researched Mooney, Cessna, Piper, & Cirrus as potential candidates for my first airplane. I found that Mooney fit the bill to the T. My flight instructor said too hard to land go with Cessna or Piper. I could not settle for anything less than what I wanted so I disregarded what he said and I valued his opinion greatly and figured when I get my plane I will transition VERY SLOWLY & CAREFULLY with lots of duel instructions. Now I have 18 hours of duel instruction in my plane the last 8 hours the flight instructor just sitting there enjoying the flight with his arms folded and getting paid to be ready to take over if needed. I believe I'm ready to solo, my landings are great as long as I stay ahead of the plane. Oh by the way I only had 30 hours when I decided on a Mooney. Quote
Marauder Posted May 27, 2013 Report Posted May 27, 2013 I understand where he is coming from with respect to the heaviness of the controls. If you are not accustomed to it, you will wonder why they are heavy. They are heavier than Cessnas and Pipers in particular. And that is what makes Mooneys a great IFR platform. I have a couple of hundred hours in Cessnas and Pipers. I have flown them in rough weather and do appreciate the stability of the Mooney over them in those conditions. I think the advice people are giving you is to resist the urge to run out and buy until you are certain of the mission and the types of flying you will be doing. I personally flew a bunch of different planes before deciding on the Mooney. Each has their attributes and their drawbacks. 1 Quote
fantom Posted May 27, 2013 Report Posted May 27, 2013 I think folks misunderstood my review of the first Mooney..... Usually the reason for that is poorly worded, and/or un-researched opinions, based on inexperienced hearsay. It's your responsibility to be clear and through with your written critiques, not the 'folks' you confused, IMHO. While there are many tens of thousands of flying hours, and Mooney experience here, newbie, you'll discover with some more in-depth reading of MooneySpace, that as a group we're more even handed than most regarding the pros and cons of our birds. Little halo reporting or 'sliced bread' love here. I'm always amused that it's primarily newbies that seem to have all the answers to questions the rest of us spend a lifetime studying and happily debating. Suggest you 'relax' yourself, take a deep breath, and gain some more experience flying lots of planes when you can. 1 Quote
benpilot Posted May 27, 2013 Author Report Posted May 27, 2013 No worries folks, I will continue to build experience flying different planes. Never said that I have all the answers and don't know how that got interpreted? BTW I understand how fanatical folks who own a particular type of plane are after all you spent many tens if not hundreds of thousands of dollars, time and effort to acquire, maintain and fly a Mooney. Not knocking it, it felt very stable in turbulence and a speed demon compared to Cessna and Piper I've flown. Quote
Cruiser Posted May 27, 2013 Report Posted May 27, 2013 No worries folks, I will continue to build experience flying different planes. Never said that I have all the answers and don't know how that got interpreted? BTW I understand how fanatical folks who own a particular type of plane are after all you spent many tens if not hundreds of thousands of dollars, time and effort to acquire, maintain and fly a Mooney. Not knocking it, it felt very stable in turbulence and a speed demon compared to Cessna and Piper I've flown. Well it is very rude coming into someone's house and telling them you don't like it. Then offering them a second chance to impress you. 1 Quote
rob Posted May 27, 2013 Report Posted May 27, 2013 I don't think that the Mooney crowd is full of fanatics or unreasonable people. As stated, there's no "halo reviews" or particular brand bias. We have members who outgrow their M20 and move on to twins, Bonanzas, Saratogas, etc. Lots of the members have also owned other aircraft prior to their Mooney, too. There isn't really any brand bashing going on here, that's reserved for other forums (there's a fellow on the Piper forums, for example, who seemingly has a personal vendetta against Cirrus). Mooney pilots appreciate all aircraft and as far as I have seen, respect them for their differences and give honest appraisals of each distinct airframe and its pros and cons. What this forum is is a bunch of pilots of varying experience who all own a similar airframe. We all own them not because we are particularly impressed or concerned with brand names, but because they fit our mission better than anything else flying. For me, the M20C is the perfect personal transporter. There's nothing that touches its efficiency at the price. Quote
benpilot Posted May 27, 2013 Author Report Posted May 27, 2013 cool well I plan to get checked out in different Mooney and other aircraft to get a feel for them better. Quote
carusoam Posted May 27, 2013 Report Posted May 27, 2013 How do you intend to do that??? Just wondering.... Best regards, -a- Quote
benpilot Posted May 27, 2013 Author Report Posted May 27, 2013 easy the clubs have different aircraft for checkouts after I have my PPL. That will give me a feel for the best fit for me whether it be Mooney, Cirrus, Beechcraft, or Socata. Quote
Marauder Posted May 28, 2013 Report Posted May 28, 2013 And since you have made a whole bunch of new friends here, let us know what part of the country you fly out of and maybe you can link up with one of us and see what a Mooney Maniac looks like up close. Quote
N1026F Posted May 28, 2013 Report Posted May 28, 2013 ...'Newbie, most Mooniacs weren't born that way--we started off just like you: looking for the best plane to fit our mission and we did the same objective analysis before sinking hard-earned money into the initial investment. I bought a 78J model before I soloed--great plane. At one time, I thought I'd build one...then my wife asked me a critical question (that is actually the definition of "wife"--one who asks questions to which you don't necessarily like the answer): "do you want to spend time building or flying?" Damn! Well, shop well, and realize that with ALL planes in an aging fleet, there are quantum leaps in comfort, speed and capability. I now fly a 2004 Ovation 2 with substantial upgrades--I like the plane... Mooneys will always lead the pack in all single engine categories and safety--even without a parachute. That is an objectively verifiable statement of fact. Quote
Skywarrior Posted May 28, 2013 Report Posted May 28, 2013 When I was young, I knew everything. As I got older, I would sometimes concede that there were a *few* things I wasn't a complete master of. Now, approaching 60, I don't know nuthin'. But, that makes it that much more fun to learn stuff. I no longer have that "you can't teach me anything" blinder on... Quote
benpilot Posted May 28, 2013 Author Report Posted May 28, 2013 hope u guys are not sore about this. Just my initial feedback and the plane is well built for speed :-) Quote
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