Will.iam Posted August 6, 2024 Report Posted August 6, 2024 6 minutes ago, exM20K said: His InReach feed is here. https://share.garmin.com/pwnel doing a lot better than flight aware estimates! Well even flightaware has him up to 169, might be all that excess fuel weight getting used up allowing him to go faster with the same fuelflow and power setting. Quote
hubcap Posted August 6, 2024 Report Posted August 6, 2024 12 hours ago, Will.iam said: Your data is overly optimistic as none of your data shows 120 gs at cruise in fact your worse speed is still 20 above what he is actually getting if the ads-b data is correct. Looks like he made it to Japan. Impressive. 2 Quote
Pinecone Posted August 6, 2024 Report Posted August 6, 2024 15 hours ago, Will.iam said: Except 204 gals at 5.8 puts your weight at 1182 not including you or anything else get out that overweight ferry permit and a 2 mile long runway Alaska rules 1 Quote
BlueSky247 Posted August 6, 2024 Report Posted August 6, 2024 Okay. I’m calling BS on this one. There’s no way that plane was flying within the weight limits given the size of the pilot’s massive balls. Mad respect! 1 4 Quote
exM20K Posted August 6, 2024 Report Posted August 6, 2024 22 minutes ago, BlueSky247 said: Okay. I’m calling BS on this one. There’s no way that plane was flying within the weight limits given the size of the pilot’s massive balls. Mad respect! https://www.mooney.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/SIM20-133.pdf applies to the long body planes, but perhaps can be used for ferry permit or something. -dan Quote
M20F Posted August 6, 2024 Report Posted August 6, 2024 It’s decent, KSAN to KSAV far as I know is the winner. Quote
Will.iam Posted August 7, 2024 Report Posted August 7, 2024 Wholly bladder busters what the deal with all these long distance flights in single engine planes?!?!? https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N176TA/history/20240806/1240Z/KMCE/PHNL i really do not know how they got enough fuel on the plane to make that trip, especially how inefficient a cessna 172 is geesh whole cockpit must have been fuel tanks! 1 Quote
Aerodon Posted August 7, 2024 Author Report Posted August 7, 2024 38 minutes ago, Will.iam said: Wholly bladder busters what the deal with all these long distance flights in single engine planes?!?!? https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N176TA/history/20240806/1240Z/KMCE/PHNL i really do not know how they got enough fuel on the plane to make that trip, especially how inefficient a cessna 172 is geesh whole cockpit must have been fuel tanks! The C172 type certificate includes the following note. A late model 172R probably weighs 1700 lbs and has a gross of 2550. 50G fuel is 300, pilot 200, ferry tanks 100. So still another 250 lbs fuel. The 30% over gross is another 750 lbs, so it is possible to carry 1300 lbs fuel total, or 215G. At 9 GPH this is 24 hours. This flight is at 18 hours, 2.5 to go. So 20.5 and maybe 2 or 3 hour reserve. Never mind fuel, I would worry about an oil filler system? Aerodon >>Special Ferry Flight Authorization. Flight Standards District Offices are authorized to issue Special overweight ferry flight authorizations. This airplane is structurally satisfactory for ferry flight if maintained within the following limits: (1) Takeoff weight must not exceed 130% of the maximum weight for Normal Category; and (2) The Never Exceed Airspeed (VNE) and Maximum Structural Cruising Speed (VC) must be reduced by 30%; and (3) Forward and aft center of gravity limits may not be exceeded; and (4) Structural load factors of +2.5 g. to -1.0 g. may not be exceeded. Requirements for any additional oil should be established in accordance with Advisory Circular AC23.1011-1. Increased stall speeds and reduced climb performance should be expected for the increased weights. Flight characteristics and performance at the increased weights have not been evaluated. Flight Permit for operations of overweight aircraft may be found in Advisory Circular AC21-4B. Quote
kortopates Posted August 7, 2024 Report Posted August 7, 2024 That’s also the Ferry route to Hawaii and Australia and if i recall correctly Merced is where they install ferry tanks.Some years ago we had a ferry pilot experience a fatal takeoff there when the ferry tank wasn’t properly secured and moved during takeoff resulting in a crash. it was actually a flight of two with the other pilot being a veteran at it leading and the Mooney following with a newer pilot headed to Australia if i recall correctly.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Quote
Will.iam Posted August 7, 2024 Report Posted August 7, 2024 I’ll admit it when i was young and naïve i could see getting some enjoyment out of such an adventure, now not so much. I’m just too old and have too much to lose to fly 12 plus hours over the ocean to get any type of satisfaction or joy doing such a trip. 2 Quote
pwnel Posted August 10, 2024 Report Posted August 10, 2024 On 8/6/2024 at 10:35 PM, BlueSky247 said: Okay. I’m calling BS on this one. There’s no way that plane was flying within the weight limits given the size of the pilot’s massive balls. Mad respect! Took a screenshot of this and sent it to my friends - made my day haha 1 Quote
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