Plane crash near me in Plano

[hammdo]

Looks like a Modern Mooney but not 100% sure (video shows the tail but need to zoom in). We were across the street eating when it happened:

https://www.wfaa.com/article/news/local/plane-crash-plano-shopping-center/287-ac46a2ae-ee14-44f6-9f2d-f1c782408219

-Don

[Navy79]

Have to agree. Sure looks like a Mooney empannage.  Does not look survivable, unfortunately.   

[Fly Boomer]

23 minutes ago, hammdo said:

Looks like a Mooney but not 100% sure.

I don't think so.  Compare the rudder cutout from the crash to this picture.  Our cutout is much smaller.

 

 

[PeteMc]

Sad situation.

And regretfully, yes, I'd agree it was a Mooney.

[hammdo]

When I looked at the early videos, the paint scheme looked like an acclaim or ovation. It burned really fast so was hard to tell…

-Don

[ZuluZulu]

Might be N1204X, based on viewing the FlightRadar24 archive.  No recent flights for it on FlightAware or ADS-B Exchange, however.  FlightRadar24 shows only very brief returns.

[hammdo]

"The FAA has confirmed that only the pilot was on board when the plane downed outside of a shopping center located at 6509 W. Park Blvd. Sources tell WFAA that the pilot died in the crash. No one else has been reported injured".

-Don

[ZuluZulu]

Photo from FlightAware, and a crash site image posted by a BeechTalk user.

[hammdo]

Damn…

Airpark is right there too..

-Don

[Fly Boomer]

2 minutes ago, ZuluZulu said:

Photo from FlightAware, and a crash site image posted by a BeechTalk user.

Paint seems to match, but the leading edge of the vert stab doesn't look vertical in that pic.

[EricJ]

Ouch.   That's not good.     :'(

[hammdo]

Pic on the tail sure looks like the Mooney Logo..

-Don

[ZuluZulu]

Just posted by the BeechTalk user:

A friend found it on Live ATC archive. He was inbound to Dallas Airpark (F69) and he told Addison he couldn't find it in the dark. Ended up overshooting and ADS tower had him turn back around and he then said he had sight of the airport and was going to shoot the approach. Tower asks if he is going around and no response. This is verbage from a friend, I did NOT listen to it but it is so sad. I go in to Airpark all the time as our daughter lives very close. It is hard to find during the day, I bet it is VERY hard to find at night in the sea of lights around Addison.

Prayers to all involved!

[bonal]

Wishful thinking you can clearly see the Mooney logo on the tail.  Totally sucks 

[bonal]

Doesn’t matter what kind of plane, totally sucks 

[hammdo]

Visual is the only ‘approach’ there too…

no IMC in the area either…

-Don

[hammdo]

"PLANO, Texas — A single-engine Mooney M20 has crashed in Plano outside of Mama's Daughters' Diner at around 6 p.m. on Tuesday, according to the FAA. "  
 

-Don

[hammdo]

https://archive.liveatc.net/kads/KADS1-Twr-Nov-21-2023-2330Z.mp3

Addison tower…

-Don

[ZuluZulu]

6 minutes ago, hammdo said:

https://archive.liveatc.net/kads/KADS1-Twr-Nov-21-2023-2330Z.mp3

Addison tower…

-Don

I shortened it to only the calls involving the Mooney.  No recorded drama, but sad to listen to after the fact.

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[Parker_Woodruff]

The owner is age 87 or 88 according to an online database.

I will note two things, one of which may be unrelated to this accident:

- Please make sure go arounds and Stall avoidance  are part of your recurrent training, and even moreso as you age.

- for your safety, please remove sheepskin seat covers if they’re *at all* in the way of your manual operation of the trim wheel. I don’t care if you have electric trim. 

[kortopates]

Visual is the only ‘approach’ there too…
no IMC in the area either…
-Don

Wonder if he was referring to the visual approach on a GTN or Avidyne GPS. They can make all the difference in finding a hard to see runway.


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[DCarlton]

3 minutes ago, kortopates said:

Wonder if he was referring to the visual approach on a GTN or Avidyne GPS. They can make all the difference in finding a hard to see runway.


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What does it display if visual is selected?  An extended runway centerline?  Sounds useful.  

[kortopates]

What does it display if visual is selected?  An extended runway centerline?  Sounds useful.  

Lateral guidance to every runway in the database and many with vertical guidance when obstructions don’t disallow. Of course strictly a VFR aide to help to make a stabilized approach.


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[EricJ]

6 minutes ago, DCarlton said:

What does it display if visual is selected?  An extended runway centerline?  Sounds useful.  

It provides the same vertical and lateral guidance indications as a GPS approach.

[hammdo]

https://issuu.com/vintageeaa/docs/va-vol-30-no-4-april-2002

-Don