Yet another noob thread

[Dickard]

I guess I'll add to the new owner thread.  I should have titled it, "Dear God! What have I done??"  First time aircraft owner.  Go big or go home right?  I did my commercial training in a pair of brand new Mooney M20J 201's in Killeen, Texas...30 years ago.  Decided it was time to stop flying the Covid skies and take matters into my own hands.  Living in the Rockies, I figured a turbo was a must. Now I'm broke and am working on my cardboard street corner sign, "will work for 100LL money". 

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[LANCECASPER]

22 hours ago, Dickard said:

I guess I'll add to the new owner thread.  I should have titled it, "Dear God! What have I done??"  First time aircraft owner.  Go big or go home right?  I did my commercial training in a pair of brand new Mooney M20J 201's in Killeen, Texas...30 years ago.  Decided it was time to stop flying the Covid skies and take matters into my own hands.  Living in the Rockies, I figured a turbo was a must. Now I'm broke and am working on my cardboard street corner sign, "will work for 100LL money". 

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Congratulations! Beautiful airplane.

(If you drop jpegs or pngs in the post then they'll show up for everyone to see without downloading.)

I've never seen the audio panel on the left side before but it works for sure and gives you more space in the center stack. (If you ever have to cut a new left panel though I would move the G500 up as high as it will go. When you have your seat adjusted to see over the glareshield on the tall panel, having to look down so far at your PFD/MFD is a little inconvenient. Moving the audio panel to the right side or doing a remote audio panel is no big deal.) 

On the last Bravo I had I also moved the Mooney annunciator, like on this airplane,  to the left panel to give more space in the center plus to keep it in my scan better.

 

[adverseyaw]

On the topic of moving instruments, I've heard that FSDOs vary quite a bit on what they will allow. I proposed relocating some of the factory indicators when I had my PFD put in, but the manager of the 145 station that did the install was clear that the local inspectors would push back hard on relocating anything that came from the manufacturer. I showed him examples like yours and he said other FSDOs were not as strict.

[daytonabch04]

Welcome to the Bravo club.  You'll love the turbo.  I never flew in a Mooney or turbo until buying mine and wouldn't change the experience at all.  The speed bug will bite ya though and you'll want more.  Hope you had a good pre-buy and nothing creeps up on you.  Is it a FIKI bird?

[LANCECASPER]

1 hour ago, adverseyaw said:

On the topic of moving instruments, I've heard that FSDOs vary quite a bit on what they will allow. I proposed relocating some of the factory indicators when I had my PFD put in, but the manager of the 145 station that did the install was clear that the local inspectors would push back hard on relocating anything that came from the manufacturer. I showed him examples like yours and he said other FSDOs were not as strict.

I can see where they would have a problem if you moved an annunciator further out of the pilot's field of view, but not closer.

[Dickard]

2 hours ago, LANCECASPER said:

Congratulations! Beautiful airplane.

(If you drop jpegs or pngs in the post then they'll show up for everyone to see without downloading.)

I've never seen the audio panel on the left side before but it works for sure and gives you more space in the center stack.

On the last Bravo I had I also moved the Mooney annunciator, like on this airplane,  to the left panel to give more space in the center plus to keep it in my scan better.

 

That last picture is my plane as well.

[Dickard]

1 hour ago, daytonabch04 said:

Welcome to the Bravo club.  You'll love the turbo.  I never flew in a Mooney or turbo until buying mine and wouldn't change the experience at all.  The speed bug will bite ya though and you'll want more.  Hope you had a good pre-buy and nothing creeps up on you.  Is it a FIKI bird?

It is not FIKI.  Baby steps.  I'm not ready for any kind of weather like that.  I'm a severe clear kinda guy at this point.

[LANCECASPER]

3 minutes ago, Dickard said:

That last picture is my plane as well.

Yes I found the whole panel picture and a lot of other nice pics when I googled N67TF.  https://www.aircraft.com/aircraft/207682969/n67tf-1999-mooney-m20m-bravo

[Dickard]

10 minutes ago, LANCECASPER said:

Yes I found the whole panel picture and a lot of other nice pics when I googled N67TF.  https://www.aircraft.com/aircraft/207682969/n67tf-1999-mooney-m20m-bravo

It's all a bit beyond me at the moment.  My office at home looks like a Mooney manual convention crashed into it.  It's the plane equivalent of my listening room.

[Rick Junkin]

4 hours ago, Dickard said:

 I should have titled it, "Dear God! What have I done??"

HA! Fortunately that soon passes as you immerse yourself in learning your new airplane. Sounds like you are well on your way in that regard.

Welcome to the club, and yes, reserve a special place in your wallet labeled "Mooney Pass-Through Money" and prepare for it to be mostly empty most of the time. You're gonna love it.

Cheers,
Rick

[affricate]

7 hours ago, Dickard said:

It is not FIKI.  Baby steps.  I'm not ready for any kind of weather like that.  I'm a severe clear kinda guy at this point.

Same here, beautiful plane. Welcome to the community.

[carusoam]

Congrats on the awesome acquisition!

With such a powerful X-country machine…

Do you have an IR to go with that?

Did you get transition training to get you up to speed?

You have insurance?

 

These are the usual questions we get as new owners…

There is a stack of answers to go with that if you need or want more info…

Best regards,

-a-

[Dickard]

11 hours ago, carusoam said:

Congrats on the awesome acquisition!

With such a powerful X-country machine…

Do you have an IR to go with that?

Did you get transition training to get you up to speed?

You have insurance?

 

These are the usual questions we get as new owners…

There is a stack of answers to go with that if you need or want more info…

Best regards,

-a-

I have a commercial ticket with IR.  I was out of flying for 20 years until last year when I started intense training to get back up to speed.  I've been working on my IPC, but Don Kaye gave me some good advice during my transition training:  Get about 50 hours of VFR time in the Mooney and THEN work on the IPC.  Insurance: check.  It's painful this year, but hopefully with time built, it'll get less painful next year and the year after.

[ilovecornfields]

13 minutes ago, Dickard said:

I have a commercial ticket with IR.  I was out of flying for 20 years until last year when I started intense training to get back up to speed.  I've been working on my IPC, but Don Kaye gave me some good advice during my transition training:  Get about 50 hours of VFR time in the Mooney and THEN work on the IPC.  Insurance: check.  It's painful this year, but hopefully with time built, it'll get less painful next year and the year after.

Welcome back to the world of flying! If you’ve been gone for 20 years the instrument stuff has changed quite a bit (like GPS approaches).  You might benefit from spending some time with John and Martha and going through their instrument course (bonus - no checkride at the end!).

Don’a advice is sound, but I just went for both the flight review and IPC at once after taking a long break. I’m not a very good VFR only pilot, especially living on the coast. If you’re near the Bay Area the low viz and marine layer can move in pretty quickly.

[carusoam]

15 hours ago, Dickard said:

I have a commercial ticket with IR.  I was out of flying for 20 years until last year when I started intense training to get back up to speed.  I've been working on my IPC, but Don Kaye gave me some good advice during my transition training:  Get about 50 hours of VFR time in the Mooney and THEN work on the IPC.  Insurance: check.  It's painful this year, but hopefully with time built, it'll get less painful next year and the year after.

How well is everything coming back from long term storage in memory?

I got to take some extended time off once…

Surprised by how much came back really quickly…

A few things took a bit longer…

And other stuff was learn it like it was all new….

 

Long Bodies take a bit more finesse to control velocity than other more simple planes….

They make more of fun challenge…

I got to start over from flying a C172 for a few hours… it was better for me and the airplanes….  

 

You won’t need it… But, Good Luck with your first year!

Best regards,

-a-

[Dickard]

On 2/18/2022 at 12:04 AM, carusoam said:

How well is everything coming back from long term storage in memory?

I got to take some extended time off once…

Surprised by how much came back really quickly…

A few things took a bit longer…

And other stuff was learn it like it was all new….

 

Long Bodies take a bit more finesse to control velocity than other more simple planes….

They make more of fun challenge…

I got to start over from flying a C172 for a few hours… it was better for me and the airplanes….  

 

You won’t need it… But, Good Luck with your first year!

Best regards,

-a-

I started my refresh training in C172 then moved to low wing Pipers and eventually a Diamond DA40.  I was surprised at how instinctually things came back.  My instructor would comment, "nice slip" or "nice s-turns".  I would say "oh yeah, that's what those are."  I just did it instinctively not even realizing it.

The first couple of landings in the Bravo were nervous, but I greased the third one and then the dozen or so after that.  The avionics is the big mystery right now.  All glass.  Also, learning to operate a turbo/complex system in the Rockies.  It's a beautiful day here in COS.  So, I'm about to go do some solo pattern work.

[carusoam]

Great update Dickard!

Hope things are still going well!

-a-