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You might laugh at me, but Paul I think you should try and break the record.... I have no doubt you would never let your plane end up like that!


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9 minutes ago, xcrmckenna said:

You might laugh at me, but Paul I think you should try and break the record.... I have no doubt you would never let your plane end up like that!

Hey, I'd love to give it a shot. I'd have to start a GoFund me here on MooneySpace to get extended tanks installed.

Or I guess I could borrow Brian Lloyds ferry tank.

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Hey, I'd love to give it a shot. I'd have to start a GoFund me here on MooneySpace to get extended tanks installed.
Or I guess I could borrow Brian Lloyds ferry tank.

Start it up, I’ll be the first to donate. I bet you could get a shot to donate the work of installing the tanks. If Brian would let you use them.


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One of the important things to do... follow in the foot steps of John Paul...

John did a really good job selecting the weather to get the strongest tailwinds possible to cross the country... 

MS has a good weather guy that could really help make this work... :)

PP thinking out loud...

Best regards,

-a-

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One of the important things to do... follow in the foot steps of John Paul...
John did a really good job selecting the weather to get the strongest tailwinds possible to cross the country... 
MS has a good weather guy that could really help make this work... 
PP thinking out loud...
Best regards,
-a-

That’s how the guy in the E model made it from coast to coast with strong tail winds.


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11 minutes ago, xcrmckenna said:

That’s how the guy in the E model made it from coast to coast with strong tail winds.

"The guy in the E model" is John Paul. See Anthony's post . . . . San Diego to Savannah non-stop! Much longer time than I would care to spend in any plane without two aisles to walk around in.

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5 hours ago, gsxrpilot said:
5 hours ago, Danb said:

Sitting in a hanger covered with dust, what a shame for a world record holder.

 

It looks like it is still flying.

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"The guy in the E model" is John Paul. See Anthony's post . . . . San Diego to Savannah non-stop! Much longer time than I would care to spend in any plane without two aisles to walk around in.

That’s the gentleman. It took him two tries from what I remember?


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31 minutes ago, xcrmckenna said:


That’s the gentleman. It took him two tries from what I remember?

Yes. His story of talking to ABQ, filed for SAV and diverting for somewhere in Nor Cal was pretty funny. Winds weren't as forecast and he realized he wouldn't make it.

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Johns weather window lasted about a week or so... the first attempt, I believe, resulted in a come back next year, to get the job done... his trips defined Mooney efficiency...

If doing a repeat, or a speedier 252 run...  

  • Precision fuel level sensors would be extra good... (Cies)
  • extended range tanks are a natural for a super long distance Mooney...(Monroy)
  • A really good engine monitor in place of the usual analog devices... (JPI, EI, or Insight :))
  • GPS integrated with the fuel data... constantly letting you know fuel on board, and fuel required to destination....
  • cruising LOP in the FLs.... that's just an extra nice side benefit!
  • A handful of other things would be nice... Mountain High O2 bits and pieces...
  • ADSB in weather/wind at altitude info or XM...
  • satelite receiver to get MS in the FLs... and WeatherSpork...

Jolie’s friend does some interesting global flights, his plane is covered in sponsor decals....

Maybe something to be learned from his sponsor experience...

Or doing a full speed Mooney run... get one good fuel sponsor...  :)

How far can you go with 130gallon tanks?

Getting the sponsors on board requires some good story writing in publications like AOPA and other pilot magazines... MS has two writers of this quality and experience....

does that generate a few ideas?

PP thoughts only, not a CFI...

Best regards,

-a-

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3 minutes ago, carusoam said:

If doing a repeat, or a speedier 252 run...  

  • Precision fuel level sensors would be extra good... (Cies) Done
  • extended range tanks are a natural for a super long distance Mooney...(Monroy) Needed
  • A really good engine monitor in place of the usual analog devices... (JPI, EI, or Insight :)) Done
  • GPS integrated with the fuel data... constantly letting you know fuel on board, and fuel required to destination.... Done
  • cruising LOP in the FLs.... that's just an extra nice side benefit! Done
  • A handful of other things would be nice... Mountain High O2 bits and pieces... Done
  • ADSB in weather/wind at altitude info or XM... Done
  • satelite receiver to get MS in the FLs... and WeatherSpork... Needed

 

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12 hours ago, gsxrpilot said:

Hey, I'd love to give it a shot. I'd have to start a GoFund me here on MooneySpace to get extended tanks installed.

Or I guess I could borrow Brian Lloyds ferry tank.

Another reason you have a shot at it is that N252AD is certified to FL280 where the winds may be stronger. (Of course Eastbound you'd be at FL270)

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34 minutes ago, LANCECASPER said:

Another reason you have a shot at it is that N252AD is certified to FL280 where the winds may be stronger. (Of course Eastbound you'd be at FL270)

I would love to take a crack at it. I've read Jonathan's account of his flight several times. This type of flying is interesting to me.

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Back in 1980, seemed like either Flying or AOPA had a writeup about the record flight.  Was part of the flight at FL290?  250 or 290 for 8 hours, he must have been in great shape and practiced in the art of using O2 at those levels.

  • 3 years later...
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Hello Gents,

I know this is an older post, but just if anyone is curious, N231LR is currently in our maintenance hangar getting an annual inspection for pre purchase.  It had a belly in Late 2023, with repairs done in Feb of 2024.  It's now at our shop with prospects of a new buyer.  I had no idea about the planes history.  I had Googled the N# looking for the accident report.  Then I came across all the history.  

If anyone was curious. 

Cheers Gents

 

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1 hour ago, KER said:

Hello Gents,

I know this is an older post, but just if anyone is curious, N231LR is currently in our maintenance hangar getting an annual inspection for pre purchase.  It had a belly in Late 2023, with repairs done in Feb of 2024.  It's now at our shop with prospects of a new buyer.  I had no idea about the planes history.  I had Googled the N# looking for the accident report.  Then I came across all the history.  

If anyone was curious. 

Cheers Gents

 

The present owner hasn't exactly been enjoyable to deal with - but this post may help you look for things on the pre-buy.

 

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