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Hello and Happy Holidays to all.

Im looking for the owner or status of a M20-C sn 2808. That’s all I have. I bought a McCauley 3 Blade From an individual and the original paperwork indicates it was sold for a C #2808. The STC covers all Vintage models but it’s the Spinner application that has me guessing. I am installing it on my F that has a “yet to be determined” cowling mod. The last aircraft the prop was on was a C-170 so cowling not a factor in that respect. I’m thinking of installing (for now) the ARI mod and the mystery ARI guy said it to be sure it is for a “J”..I’m assuming it’s the Bulkhead that matters? I cannot discern any part numbers on either Spinner or Bulkhead. 

 

Any help elp would be appreciated.

Happy Holidays to all.

 

Mack

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I owned a C.

 

Mack,

you might want to think about narrowing your title down a bit...  :)

The long pointy nature of that spinner implies newer than a C...

The C was known for its bullet shape.

You might be able to get an answer from McCauley.  Often the prop and spinner are selected together...

Also be on the look out for the filler pieces that get fastened in place on the spinner’s side behind the blades... see the extra screw holes there?

Good luck with finding your answer,

-a-

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23 minutes ago, Captnmack said:

Hello and Happy Holidays to all.

Im looking for the owner or status of a M20-C sn 2808. That’s all I have. I bought a McCauley 3 Blade From an individual and the original paperwork indicates it was sold for a C #2808. The STC covers all Vintage models but it’s the Spinner application that has me guessing. I am installing it on my F that has a “yet to be determined” cowling mod. The last aircraft the prop was on was a C-170 so cowling not a factor in that respect. I’m thinking of installing (for now) the ARI mod and the mystery ARI guy said it to be sure it is for a “J”..I’m assuming it’s the Bulkhead that matters? I cannot discern any part numbers on either Spinner or Bulkhead. 

 

Any help elp would be appreciated.

Happy Holidays to all.

 

Mack

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From your photo, doesn’t look like for a J. The base of the spinner should be 14 inches and the bulkhead would be reversed from the picture. That makes the blade slots look to big. 

Just an observation and I may not be correct by just this one photo.

David

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That looks like a J spinner to me. And there should be a U-shaoed insert that covers up the part of the blade notch behind where the blade comes through. That's what 4 of those screw holes are for.

This is the spinner on a C.

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39 minutes ago, Bob_Belville said:

That spinner looks like the Hartzell on my E with a Scimitar Top PropIMG_20180710_142435375_HDR.thumb.jpg.dfedd6b7fad7b5856d7c6d92ad9a38b0.jpg

Bob--didn't @Sabremech's cowling intake revision require  hanging to a J spinner if you didn't already have one? That's what turned me off, it's am expensive conversion.

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36 minutes ago, Hank said:

Bob--didn't @Sabremech's cowling intake revision require  hanging to a J spinner if you didn't already have one? That's what turned me off, it's am expensive conversion.

I would not call it a J spinner but the spinner has to bolt to the prop hub and not the flywheel. My spinner was already okay. It was part of the Scimitar conversion.

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Thanks for the reply guys. Here is what I DO know: 

The STC was originally sold for a “C” Mooney, #2808, using a PL-60152 STC Kit. 

The STC and Propeller itself covers all Vintage Mooneys, however the difference is whether or not the cowling has been moded to a J style. If that is the case then the Entire Spinner assembly needs to be a PL-60153 Kit. I’m not smart enough to assertain the differences. 

I asked the ARI guy (thru eBay communication channel only) and was informed that I have an incompatible Spinner Assy. Hell, it looks great but needs to be a “J” to be correct, that a few$$. I sent a call out to Lasar to see if the uninstalled Lasar Mod I have is compatible. All of this might sway my cowl mod dilemma. 

Thats what I know..

ps, Dave, does your Mod also need the J Spinner?

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26 minutes ago, Captnmack said:

 

ps, Dave, does your Mod also need the J Spinner?

Hi Mack,

Yes, my cowling will need he J style spinner in order to move the air filter inside the left cylinder air inlet. I need the spinner to move forward from the flywheel to the prop hub or in the case of a J, the spinner bulkhead is narrow where it bolts to the flywheel and then goes forward to just behind the blades for the spinner to attach. 

David

 

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1 hour ago, Hank said:

Bob--didn't @Sabremech's cowling intake revision require  hanging to a J spinner if you didn't already have one? That's what turned me off, it's am expensive conversion.

I hope to have a less expensive spinner option. 

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So I found out that a new “J” spinner will run $2500 if I chose to go with the ARI mod while using the 3 Blade McCauley. I could offset that cost by selling the Spinner that came with the prop, maybe. Not sure of value but it is low time. That would bring the cost to do the ARI to almost $3500 getting close to Dave’s cowl but still would need Spinner. So most likely I will just stick with installing the Lasar mod and use the Spinner I have. Won’t look as cool but maybe I can find a J Spinner later..I’m still looking forward to the McCauley!

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Hartzell made a spinner that looks like this one and bulkhead which mounts to the aft side of the prop hub.  It was used by Russell Stallings in his cowl conversion.  It is better than the J spinner (which was made for the McCauley anyway) and bulkhead as the J model bulkheads cracked.  Are you installing it on an F with a 2 or 3 blade prop?  You are better installing a 2 blade prop on an IO-360.  Try to track down the spinner and bulkhead info with Hartzell.

John Breda

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On 3/9/2021 at 1:32 PM, MinneMooney said:

Welcome Bill. Possibly we’ll run into each other (figuratively speaking) once we can have pancake breakfasts, etc. again. I have a hangar at KANE. How long have you owned N7802V?

Sounds great and, I appreciate so many welcomes.  I literally bought her 2 weeks ago and was just searching the forum to see if anyone had ever said anything about my bird.  I am in the process of learning and getting myself acquainted with her.  It's quite a trip!  I am very new to aviation so I can't wait for the opportunity to do anything that involves being around our winged metal friends.  

Thanks again

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