o-360 overhaul

[Tmart]

Looking for prices to get an o-360 for a C model to get rebuilt. It had the bottom end done about 6 years ago and about 700 hrs ago. I don't own the plane yet but just want to get a good quote cause the engine maybe has 300 hrs left on it. I'm up in MA and wanted to know there is any Canadian company that can do it since it may be cheaper with the current conversion rates.  

[cliffy]

Why do you think you'll need an overhaul in 300 hrs?

[Tmart]

The engine hasn't flown much over the years and is at 1700 tsmo 

[Rwsavory]

http://www.jewellaviation.com/pdf/Price Sheet 2017 Engines.pdf

[Tmart]

Thanks, I'm just trying to put an offer in on a plane but wanted to factor some of the overhaul in. 

[par]

I've been told worst case 25k by a shop out in Cali. You will most likely be around 20K+ depending on what needs replacing.

[jetdriven]

Worst case is like 40k. The shop tears down the engine and then the rework shop calls and you need a new crank and a case half.  It's a risk. There's One pilot here that was 40k into an IO360 overhaul that way. He didn't want to spend 26k on a factory engine. 

[rbridges]

I believe my engine was overhauled at Zephyr.  It's the original block.  What are my options (I'm at 1200 so hopefully no time soon) ?  I know a field overhaul is possible, but isn't there a time limit on an engine for core value?

[jetdriven]

35 years is the limit for core credit on a factory engine. Anything other than a factory engine is technically a field overhaul. The quality varies widely. Built buy the owner in his garage and signed off by an A&p is an overhaul too, but so is a big engine shop.  However Zephyr is a top rate shop, if send my A3B6 there before I sent it back to the factory. 

[rbridges]

20 minutes ago, jetdriven said:

35 years is the limit for core credit on a factory engine. Anything other than a factory engine is technically a field overhaul. The quality varies widely. Built buy the owner in his garage and signed off by an A&p is an overhaul too, but so is a big engine shop.  However Zephyr is a top rate shop, if send my A3B6 there before I sent it back to the factory. 

that's what I thought.  If I go any way other than field overhaul, I'm going to eat the core cost, correct?

[jetdriven]

If the core is over 35 years then yeah I don't see the factory as an option. The core is 14k so that makes it a 40k engine. 

[jetdriven]

Jewell also seems to have a high reputation here. @aaronk25 had his done. 

[yvesg]

Here is a Canadian shop that could do it for you:

http://www.aeroatelier.aero/en/aircraft-engine-overhaul

Yves

[Jerry Pressley]

Winchester engines in Winchester VA is one of the better shops on this end of the country.  Tom Sweitz is the owner and has been overhauling for many many years 648 678 1661

[yvesg]

About that Canadian shop, I got a price last year from them for an O-360 and they were at $30K + Tax CDN which is about $26.5K USD

Tax is 15%. If you can get out of paying that it would be even cheaper.

It is about time the dollar conversion rate can be used to the benefits of Canadians workers!

Yves

[aaronk25]

Jewell also seems to have a high reputation here. [mention=8452]aaronk25[/mention] had his done. 

Yep running great. 1qt In first 15 hours after oil change and another in about 10 hours. Strongly recommend as it's a father son shop and all Sam Jewell does is pretty much an assembly line of engines non stop. It will be a shame when he retires in a couple years. There price list is on their website. What I like the best is they don't push you to replace good working parts. His engine overhauls make the full next TBO time as long as their flown regularly.


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[Tmart]

Talked to Sam on the phone, seems to be a straight shooter! His prices are good and even had some good advice on shipping!

[neilpilot]

When Aaron was shopping for an engine rebuilder, I posted that I had been using Jewell for all but one of my Mooney annuals since 1995.  I can recommend Sam & David Jewell based on quality of work and integrity.  

[carusoam]

Nice Pirep, Neil.

Best regards,

-a-

[Jim Peace]

owners seem to like these guys:

http://www.coronaengines.com/Engine-Overhaul

I am at 800 hours and running strong......

Edited July 1, 2017 by Jim Peace

[Heloman]

I bought an old C model with an engine overhauled by Jewel in 2007, that piece of info went into the "PRO" column when making my purchase decision. Engine has been absolutely solid.


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[philipneeper]

I just finished my overhaul for my C, I can do field overhauls if asked. 

[flyer7324]

You are wrong about the core credit from Lycoming. Airpower just quoted me 28200 for a factory reman with a 16400 core credit for my 55 year old O360 A1D. Where did you get this misinformation from?

LYC 8042 O-360-A1D Spec Sheet.doc

[RobertGary1]

On 6/27/2017 at 10:49 PM, jetdriven said:

Worst case is like 40k. The shop tears down the engine and then the rework shop calls and you need a new crank and a case half.  It's a risk. There's One pilot here that was 40k into an IO360 overhaul that way. He didn't want to spend 26k on a factory engine. 

Lycoming also charges extra for anything that doesn't pass inspection.  Total core for my io-360 was about $25K itself ( my engine came apart so I had no core)  

-Robert

[flyntgr1]

So lets pose a hypothetical here.  Let's say you fly 200 hrs a year and trade in for a zero time factory overhaul every 10 years for 40 years.  My understanding is that they use some parts from cores they recieve, but you get a new log book every time as it's a Zero time engine.  Lets assume there are many people that do thr same as you.  You could potentially have a component in your engine that is 40 years old, but there is no way to know that.