2016 Todays Learning

[Jeff H.]

LLWS warnings are real.

[Mooneymite]

About the time you figure the nordo ahead of you on downwind must be making a downwind departure, he'll turn base.  

[bradp]

If it's squirlly and you will be landing with a stiff cross wind, disregard the pattern direction of possible.  It's safer to turn with a headwind on base rather than a tailwind on base to avoid overshoot and the temptation to overbank and auger it in turning base to final.  

[Bartman]

If you are unloading and securing the aircraft with a smile you can't wipe off your face after your first approach to minimums, and someone from the FBO says the tower at the local airport you were talking to on approach is asking to speak to you on the phone, it's probably because you forgot to close your flight plan in the air or on the ground like they told you. 

[Bartman]

If you filed a flight plan that keeps you out of ATL airspace, and then either Jax or Indy center give you a "shortcut" that penetrates ATL airspace even at 12,000 ft even slightly,  then expect a deviation when they hand you off to ATL. 

I think Indy and Jax do that just to tick off the "Big Boys" in Atlanta.  Hey...watch this LOL

[gsengle]

Why is the top of ATL so darn high? I can fly over the top of the NYC or BOS bravoes at 7500

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[Mooneymite]

31 minutes ago, gsengle said:

Why is the top of ATL so darn high? I can fly over the top of the NYC or BOS bravoes at 7500

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Bunch of reasons....first of all, Boston and NYC are pretty close to sea level, ATL is 1000', so there's 1000 right off the bat.  They have five paralell runways, so if you figure they need about 1000' altitude spacing, there's more space they need, then if you figure it is the busiest airport in the world, they need extra space "just for good measure".  As I recall, arrivals turn downwind for the north complex at about 12,000'.  Bottom line, they need it for the big guys and the little guy who flies VFR over the top scares the dickens out of all the jets who aren't expecting it there within 500' of theri assigned altitude!

[gsengle]

I'd argue that NYC airspace is way more complicated and I wonder if you add up LGA, EWR and JFK traffic if that isn't busier collectively than ATL...

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[Mooneymite]

Well, I'm not here to argue.

I thought you just wanted to know the reasons?

 

[Bartman]

If a Mooney Space thread goes beyond page 2, expect thread drift

that was meant to be funny but written in the same spirit as the thread, and not poking at anyone

[merrja]

On 5/18/2016 at 0:39 AM, DXB said:

The ipad battery drains impressively fast at full screen brightness when you don't notice the 12v charger stopped working.  Meh, who needs backups? or charts of any kind?

That's funny as I just ordered backup L charts/plates for the whole east coast for just that reason.

[gsengle]

Well, I'm not here to argue.

I thought you just wanted to know the reasons?

 

Ok 1000 feet is for elevation, the rest doesn't seem like enough explanation is what I'm saying

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[Hank]

2 hours ago, gsengle said:

Ok 1000 feet is for elevation, the rest doesn't seem like enough explanation is what I'm saying

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It makes it easier for Approach to send us around rather than shirt cutting over the top. One day I'm gonna measure the distance edge to edge and see it I can cross VFR at 12,500 in less than 30 minutes . . . I know my climb gets pretty slow passing 10K; I've been to 15K once, step climbing and leveling for speed, but haven't cruised higher than 11K yet. Surely the extra climb from 9K when traveling won't be as long as routing through SINCA.

Time to play and record.