Ripped off from my annual inspection

[Danb]

Mark if you have your plane and the email he would have to sue you and he wouldnt since he would lose. 

Good luck and happy holidays

Dan

[rblauson]

Agreed.

 Anyone suggest a good electric powered tow bar for my 201? 

Many thanks,

Mark

[Bob_Belville]

5 hours ago, rblauson said:

Agreed.

 Anyone suggest a good electric powered tow bar for my 201? 

Many thanks,

Mark

I love my Nose-Dragger Dragger. (Available as gas or 24V.) I paid a few hundred $ for mine, it belonged to a guy who'd sold his plane and it had been sitting for a few years, needed a battery. I had a couple of old Concorde 12V batteries which work great in series.)

http://dragger.com/24-volt-electric-nose-dragger/

 

 

[Bob]

Mark,

Unfortunately way too many shops feel that they have an "open ticket".  When asked to explain or detail their bill, the answer is usually very vague and they just smile while holding their hand out.   Arrogance is the common element that I have found!

Told that something will take a couple hours and then charged 12, a charge of 10 hrs for a 1.5 hr job and being charged a second time when a tech does not follow a mandatory service bulletin and messes things up are all things that I have witnessed too many times. 

Unfortunately greed from some shops is beyond destructive to GA!

 

[DAVIDWH]

Preaching to the choir.

Amen, brother.

Well said..

[DXB]

5 hours ago, Bob said:

Unfortunately way too many shops feel that they have an "open ticket".  When asked to explain or detail their bill, the answer is usually very vague and they just smile while holding their hand out.  

So far my experience in my first year of aircraft ownership is that this is the norm.  For instance- regarding annual, I've read the advice from Mike Busch on asking for a written discrepancy list separating airworthiness and "recommended" items, and charges defined in advance. This makes perfect sense to me- it would be hugely helpful if there were an accrediting body that set industry-wide standards on things like this.  Instead I've only dealt with people who won't put anything in writing in advance.  They agree to do so if you ask but then never do it.  I'm talking about reputable, longstanding MSCs here, not shady establishments, so I  assume they are not trying to rip me off, just following standard industry practice.  For the most part, I'm actually happy with their work and am perfectly willing to pay a premium for the expertise at places like this.  I'm also certainly wiling to pay more than quoted initially if the job turns out to be messier than expected and just want to be kept up to date when it happens.  

But trust would be la lot easier to build if charges were clearly delineated up front.  Any advice? Particularly from the mechanics here? How should customers build mutual trust with you?

[N601RX]

The best thing I have found is to find an IA who will let you be his helper, preferably in your hanger.  You can do a lot of the opening up and closing up for him and you will get to see, understand and discuss each thing he finds. When he is finished there will be no misunderstandings and you understand what work was done or needs to be done.

I'm guessing that you will not find many people who do this and still have questions or disagreements on what was or wasn't done or the cost.

[Bravoman]

On December 24, 2015 at 8:51 AM, Bob_Belville said:

I love my Nose-Dragger Dragger. (Available as gas or 24V.) I paid a few hundred $ for mine, it belonged to a guy who'd sold his plane and it had been sitting for a few years, needed a battery. I had a couple of old Concorde 12V batteries which work great in series.)

http://dragger.com/24-volt-electric-nose-dragger/

 

 

I have both gas and electric in two different hangars. Both work great

[rblauson]

Just wanted to follow up for all the Mooney owners that offered excellent advice in this " learning " phase for me regarding that stressful annual. In retrospect I could have definitely handled things better/smarter so I'll know next time what not to do. I am glad I was able to work things out with the shop owner. It still turned out to be an $11,500.00 annual but it could have been worse. The repairs conducted have held up so far. Thanks again all for the input.

Mark 

[Marauder]

Just wanted to follow up for all the Mooney owners that offered excellent advice in this " learning " phase for me regarding that stressful annual. In retrospect I could have definitely handled things better/smarter so I'll know next time what not to do. I am glad I was able to work things out with the shop owner. It still turned out to be an $11,500.00 annual but it could have been worse. The repairs conducted have held up so far. Thanks again all for the input.

Mark 

Thanks for the follow-up for this. All of us at one time or another have dealt with "surprises" during work on our planes. Glad you're happy it was worked out to your satisfaction.

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