jessek Posted July 27, 2012 Report Posted July 27, 2012 I am a new newbe here. Been reading for a while doing research about buying a Mooney. Through my research I have decided somewhere between a 1980's 201 and a 252. I know thats pretty broad. I had a question that I just cant seem to find guidance on and I was hoping someone here may have some experience. I will be financing a large part of the cost (70-80%). What kind of interest rates and amoritizaation period can I expect? I was thinking a bout 20 years to keep the payment down and just pay more when I can. Also as for insurance I am 32 with military rotorywing background. 150hrs fixed wing-private SEL MEL INST, 3500 hrs rotorywing- COM, CFII. Hoping someone out there has been in this similar situation. Will having mostly RW time hinder my insurance rate? I am curently deployed and will be intensifying my search when i get back. Thanks in advance for any advise. Quote
Becca Posted July 27, 2012 Report Posted July 27, 2012 Quote: jessek I am a new newbe here. Been reading for a while doing research about buying a Mooney. Through my research I have decided somewhere between a 1980's 201 and a 252. I know thats pretty broad. I had a question that I just cant seem to find guidance on and I was hoping someone here may have some experience. I will be financing a large part of the cost (70-80%). What kind of interest rates and amoritizaation period can I expect? I was thinking a bout 20 years to keep the payment down and just pay more when I can. Also as for insurance I am 32 with military rotorywing background. 150hrs fixed wing-private SEL MEL INST, 3500 hrs rotorywing- COM, CFII. Hoping someone out there has been in this similar situation. Will having mostly RW time hinder my insurance rate? I am curently deployed and will be intensifying my search when i get back. Thanks in advance for any advise. Quote
carusoam Posted July 27, 2012 Report Posted July 27, 2012 Jessek, The route I took the first time... If you are a member of AOPA, there are a few options of finance and insurance that you can get started with. If you are not a member of AOPA, consider becoming one. If you don't know where to look for or select the right Mooney for you, consider all american aircraft (.com). They have several of the best models to select from or compare against. Then as you become more knowledgable on the topic, you will be educated enough to find the best deal to fit your situation. Also start looking for a place to have a pre-purchase inspection done to best protect your bank account from your new acquisition. Learn the search key here. There is two years of data here regarding purchase, finance and inspection that you might appreciate. Also be aware of sharks in the water. They exist, and take advantage of those that don't ask questions. So far you are doing well... Welcome to Mooneyspace. Best regards, -a- Quote
mooneyflyer Posted July 27, 2012 Report Posted July 27, 2012 VMG Member Mike Jacobs is Chairman of First Pryority Bank and offers Mooney Airplane financing. Contact Mike via email atrichlandcreek@hotmail.com or call anytime at (918) 497-9937. Mike is a Mooney owner as well. Quote
TonyPynes Posted July 27, 2012 Report Posted July 27, 2012 Quote: mooneyflyer VMG Member Mike Jacobs is Chairman of First Pryority Bank and offers Mooney Airplane financing. Contact Mike via email atrichlandcreek@hotmail.com or call anytime at (918) 497-9937. Mike is a Mooney owner as well. Quote
Hank Posted July 27, 2012 Report Posted July 27, 2012 Try your local credit union. It doesn't take much to open an account to become a member. Quote
rbridges Posted July 27, 2012 Report Posted July 27, 2012 I just refinanced the balance of my loan with AOPA which uses Bank of America. Due to the age of my C model, it's only 10 years. Since you're looking at a new and more expensive plane, you can probably get 15 or 20 year financing. Right now, they're doing 5.75%. As far as insurance, they wanted to know my total and complex time. They also wanted to know where it was based and if it were being hangared. Being closed hangared gave me 5% discount, and having an instrument rating will do the same. Your best bet is to call some brokers and get some pricing. Quote
Cabanaboy Posted July 27, 2012 Report Posted July 27, 2012 I used Dorr Aviation Credit Corp, they did a great job, very professional and always available. The made the process easy. 800-214-0066 http://www.dorraviation.com/matriarch/default.asp Quote
jetdriven Posted July 27, 2012 Report Posted July 27, 2012 Quote: AustinPynes Mike Jacobs was great to work with for my financing. Quote
PilotDerek Posted July 27, 2012 Report Posted July 27, 2012 I used AOPA for finacing. They were great, although I am not a fan of BOA. As far as ins it seemed that complex time was the most important. Search the threads. I remember a forum on just ins. Quote
Cabanaboy Posted July 27, 2012 Report Posted July 27, 2012 Quote: jetdriven For us, under 70 grand they refused to deal with us. For my next airplane loan I will not do business with them either. Quote
jetdriven Posted July 27, 2012 Report Posted July 27, 2012 We wanted to use them and were refused. Recommend them all you want. Quote
Kwixdraw Posted July 27, 2012 Report Posted July 27, 2012 I used AOPAs plan before it was BOA. I suspect that they are involved by absorbing MBNA but either way it worked well for me at the time. I got insurance via the EAA program and it ended up being placed through Falcon. They actually cut my rate in half this past year. No complaints there. Quote
231Pilot Posted July 28, 2012 Report Posted July 28, 2012 I used AOPA/MBNA for my first plane (M20C) and the interest was on the high side in 2000; paid cash for the second plane (M20J), and paid about 65% down and financed the rest with Airfleet Capital on the third plane (M20K). Airfleet's interest was way lower than my bank and I went with a 10 year note. They were easy to do business with. Quote
moodychief Posted July 28, 2012 Report Posted July 28, 2012 When I went through AOPA they got me financing through Pilot Bank in Tampa, FL. I got 1/2% discount for doing automatic payment. Quote
jessek Posted July 29, 2012 Author Report Posted July 29, 2012 Thanks to everyone for the info. Quote
danb35 Posted July 29, 2012 Report Posted July 29, 2012 Quote: Kwixdraw I got insurance via the EAA program and it ended up being placed through Falcon. Quote
Gilt Posted July 29, 2012 Report Posted July 29, 2012 Wings financial....2.99% new and used. Insurance AUA inc in Greensboro nc Quote
flight2000 Posted July 29, 2012 Report Posted July 29, 2012 Quote: Gilt Wings financial....2.99% new and used. Insurance AUA inc in Greensboro nc Quote
Gilt Posted July 29, 2012 Report Posted July 29, 2012 I think if your a CFI,FAA ,controller ,Military, etc or do anything in aviation you can join. Just give them a call. Quote
carusoam Posted July 30, 2012 Report Posted July 30, 2012 Consider refi house, pay cash for plane... Best interest rates can be found with home loans. Apparently gov't controlled... This, of course, requires having a home with a few percent paid down already. Best regards, -a- Quote
Bolter Posted July 31, 2012 Report Posted July 31, 2012 Quote: AustinPynes anyone use AOPA for refi? Quote
jacobwall Posted July 31, 2012 Report Posted July 31, 2012 We used Falcon insurance for the M20C. I was the lowest time individual and for $73k hull value, PPL, 150 TT, 25 complex, 0 MM, it was around the high $1k if I remember correctly. This year it should be considerably less now that I've got a lot of time. I say just the first year, fly like crazy. Quote
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