Lowbid Posted April 14, 2012 Report Posted April 14, 2012 I've owned 88Q for almost one month now and love it. However, one of the very few annoyances so far are the yokes. I came from a 1966 C-172 equipped with modern, leather wrapped yokes, very similar to 201 yokes with a PTT button, which I really like. I have searched Mooneyspace, but do not find a discussion that tells me where and how to go about upgrading to 201 style yokes. Your help is appreciated. Picture of my interior is shown. Dave Quote
jacobwall Posted April 14, 2012 Report Posted April 14, 2012 Where'd you get the seats from? I like them, from what I can see. Quote
N601RX Posted April 14, 2012 Report Posted April 14, 2012 Mooney retrofit kit 940021-50x provides the legal mechanism to upgrade. Most people just find the parts on eBay or from a parted out newer model http://www.mooney.com/images/MooneyMax/retrofit_kits.pdf This will also remove the 500hr ad inspection of the control shaft Quote
aerobat95 Posted April 14, 2012 Report Posted April 14, 2012 Quote: N601RX Mooney retrofit kit 940021-50x provides the legal mechanism to upgrade. Most people just find the parts on eBay or from a parted out newer model http://www.mooney.com/images/MooneyMax/retrofit_kits.pdf This will also remove the 500hr ad inspection of the control shaft Quote
kurtsnyder Posted April 14, 2012 Report Posted April 14, 2012 I emailed LASAR last week about the retrofit cost since I want to change to yokes to the newer style on my plane. They said the retrofit kit runs $3500-$4000. Why in the world would it cost that much?! Oh well, sounds like I'm keeping the ugly old yokes I have now unless someone can find a cheaper alternative. Quote
jetdriven Posted April 14, 2012 Report Posted April 14, 2012 Those yokes couldnt sell on eBay for 1800$ including the 500$ leather wrap on them. They ran like 3 times without selling. I swear, since Mooney closed down, some sellers are between unreasonable and orbiting Pluto. Many are not, but many are asking ten times the going rate also. Quote
aerobat95 Posted April 15, 2012 Report Posted April 15, 2012 Byron, I agree. Some of the sellers are out there on their prices. I think if those yokes were selling for say 1200 they would sell. As far as 3500-4000 for the retro kit....I think Mooney is out of their minds. It sure as hell does not cost that much to produce a part like that. Quote
aerobat95 Posted April 15, 2012 Report Posted April 15, 2012 Byron, I agree. Some of the sellers are out there on their prices. I think if those yokes were selling for say 1200 they would sell. As far as 3500-4000 for the retro kit....I think Mooney is out of their minds. It sure as hell does not cost that much to produce a part like that. Quote
M20F-1968 Posted April 15, 2012 Report Posted April 15, 2012 I have a set of 201 yokes that come from Lone Star. They were leather wrapped by Aero Comfort and have never been installed since. I ended up installing a set of yokes I obtained from an Ovation which I bought as a set with the control tubes. These were leather wrapped by the factory and had smaller stitching and a smoother leather, so I used them. I also have another set of Ovation control tubes and a set of control tubes from an F model. I have an extra set of Mooney emblems as well for the center of the 201 style yokes. I was planning on just keeping them as spare parts, but for the right price.... You can e-mail me at johnabreda@yahoo.com or call me at (617) 877-0025. John Breda Quote
danb35 Posted April 15, 2012 Report Posted April 15, 2012 I'd assume that the drawing could be obtained from Mooney, and then the appropriate parts (obtained from other sources) installed with that drawing as authority. Quote
clh Posted April 15, 2012 Report Posted April 15, 2012 I just used about $20 of parts from the local bike shop..... It is not perfect, but then again I can buy a lot of avags with the difference. Quote
Lowbid Posted April 15, 2012 Author Report Posted April 15, 2012 Quote: jacobwall Where'd you get the seats from? I like them, from what I can see. Quote
Lowbid Posted April 15, 2012 Author Report Posted April 15, 2012 Quote: M20F-1968 I have a set of 201 yokes that come from Lone Star. They were leather wrapped by Aero Comfort and have never been installed since. I ended up installing a set of yokes I obtained from an Ovation which I bought as a set with the control tubes. These were leather wrapped by the factory and had smaller stitching and a smoother leather, so I used them. I also have another set of Ovation control tubes and a set of control tubes from an F model. I have an extra set of Mooney emblems as well for the center of the 201 style yokes. I was planning on just keeping them as spare parts, but for the right price.... You can e-mail me at johnabreda@yahoo.com or call me at (617) 877-0025. John Breda Quote
N601RX Posted April 15, 2012 Report Posted April 15, 2012 Quote: Lowbid I will get in touch with you, thanks. Beyond the PTT switch, can a person install autopilot (Stec 30) on/off and Alt switches in the yoke, on the other side? What kind of AMU's would you expect to install the new yokes/control tubes? Quote
flight2000 Posted April 16, 2012 Report Posted April 16, 2012 Personnally, I'd skip the control wheel upgrade and give the instrument panel a facelift first. The STEC 30 controls will fit the old style yolks if done correctly. Just another thought. If yours are peeling and cracking like mine were, you can get them stripped and powder coated pretty cheap. They'll look and feel 100% better after that. Pictures are on my website (having a hard time posting the link from an iPad). Brian Quote
Hank Posted April 16, 2012 Report Posted April 16, 2012 When I bought my C as a new pilot, I wanted to upgrade my yokes to something with padding, preferably larger in diameter. Why? My hands were often sore and cramped after flying, especially the left one. As I became more familiar with the plane and learned how to fly it properly, I no longer have a death-grip on the yoke. The yokes are still as they came, recently powder coated to look good, and are no longer a problem. But the work Aero Comfort does certainly looks attractive! I wonder if keeping my wind-up clock would be a problem for them? Days like yesterday, with the wind gusting and swirling over the ridge paralleling the runway, the style of yoke really won't matter. Just wipe your palms on your pants; I had to dry my left hand on the right side of my cargo shorts since the kneeboard was in the way. For some reason, I get nervous doing unintended knife-edge flight on final . . . Quote
jpjp Posted April 16, 2012 Report Posted April 16, 2012 Lowbid I sent you a message on these. Check your PMs. Quote
BrianNC Posted April 17, 2012 Report Posted April 17, 2012 Quote: flight2000 Personnally, I'd skip the control wheel upgrade and give the instrument panel a facelift first. The STEC 30 controls will fit the old style yolks if done correctly. Just another thought. If yours are peeling and cracking like mine were, you can get them stripped and powder coated pretty cheap. They'll look and feel 100% better after that. Pictures are on my website (having a hard time posting the link from an iPad). Brian Quote
Lowbid Posted April 17, 2012 Author Report Posted April 17, 2012 Quote: BrianNC That's a nice clean panel. Quote
Lowbid Posted April 17, 2012 Author Report Posted April 17, 2012 If you look at the interior picure and are wondering what the silver handled thingy hanging from the left pouch is...the previous owner machined this out of aluminum to fit over the fuel selector so you don't have to bend so far over to easily switch tanks. I will post a close-up view of this tool. Quite ingenious...and works very well! Quote
BrianNC Posted April 17, 2012 Report Posted April 17, 2012 Quote: Lowbid If you look at the interior picure and are wondering what the silver handled thingy hanging from the left pouch is...the previous owner machined this out of aluminum to fit over the fuel selector so you don't have to bend so far over to easily switch tanks. I will post a close-up view of this tool. Quite ingenious...and works very well! Quote
jetdriven Posted April 18, 2012 Report Posted April 18, 2012 You can make a fuel selector tool out of a 12" piece of 3/4" PVC pipe. You cut a 1/2" notch on the bottom to engage the selector, and a dowel rod on the other end that is aligned with the slots to give you leverage and to visually see where the selector is. I can post photos of the tool if you wish. Quote
butchgilbert Posted April 23, 2012 Report Posted April 23, 2012 The aluminum fuel selector valve turner is something we all would be interested in. Quote
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