Empennage Assy for '76 M20F

[AlexF]

Thank you all for your sage advice and knowledge over the five years since an F came into my life.

I'm looking for an empennage for a '76F,  S/N 22-1313.  Part number 480005-511.  It's the whole empennage assy not including control surfaces.  Alternatively, I'd be looking for the skins and bulkhead - upper vert stab skin, lower stinger skin and stinger fwd bulkhead.  Other parts may be needed - not determined yet.

Contacted the hangar door that wasn't raised far enough.  Glad I wasn't the one to do this to the aircraft. 

Edited July 19, 2022 by AlexF
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[carusoam]

Yikes!

For pre-flown parts…. Let’s invite @Alan Fox to the conversation…

Then @Jerry Pressley and @SheryLoewen…

Best regards,

-a-

[AlexF]

... does the "@" symbol signify a summoning?

[carusoam]

4 minutes ago, AlexF said:

... does the "@" symbol signify a summoning?

Why yes, it does….

It also is an address where you can contact them directly….

They are well known suppliers of pre-flown Mooney parts…

I list Alan first… because he is around here the most often and often quick with replies….

It is also the list of the three people that work in the Mooney parts business…. 
 

Over the decades… I have done business with all three…. 

Best regards,

-a-

[KSMooniac]

I've got one from an 81 J that is likely identical. Some damage at the bottom, forward edge from ground contact, I think. The rest of it is very good. A sheet metal repair on the bottom is likely straight-forward.

I previously removed the towel bar antenna assembly, but still have the closeout panel for the front. It would be simple to close it up completely and put blades on, IMO.

I'm in Wichita... I imagine you want something close, wherever you are.

Sorry you have to deal with this!

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[Guest]

From the IPC, it looks like this fits quite a number of model years.

Clarence

[Teddyhherrera]

This is interesting, i have a 1975 mooney but my serial number is 22-1317...

Edited August 16, 2022 by Teddyhherrera

[David Lloyd]

22-1317 Got it's airworthiness cert 12/05/1975.  22-1313 Might have got the dataplate a few ahead of yours but not get airworthy till January 1976.

[Hank]

25 minutes ago, David Lloyd said:

22-1317 Got it's airworthiness cert 12/05/1975.  22-1313 Might have got the dataplate a few ahead of yours but not get airworthy till January 1976.

Mooney sets the model year, just like the 2023 cars are usually beginning to appear about now.

Airworthiness date, FAA opinion, they don't count. What's on your data plate?

[carusoam]

Mooney serial numbers are interesting…

They are mostly serial…. But, often each, year a few get out of order by working as a test mule for some design changes…. Then they come back into production out of order…

M20Fs are famous for a small group that went awry at the beginning and end of production… lots of test mules.  The end of production, we’re the M20J’s beginning…  

In the 70s… serial numbers got the addition of a two digit code… to separate out the various airframes that were available…

Back in the 60s… we couldn’t tell what airframe you had just by the serial number….

 

Now we have to memorize the two digit codes to be hip…  everyone knows the M20R starts with 29, right? 

 

Model year… is there really such a thing for Mooneys?…. Kinda, sorta, maybe, once….?  How important is/was it?

When they were producing thousands each year…. It was possible to delay the launch of a new model to match the new year…

But realistically, the parts bins didn’t all empty at the same rate… and all the parts DID get used…

There is a huge difference between a 1965 M20C and one from ‘64… square windows…. And a handful of other nice to haves…

 

As the production numbers wore down…. The variations in design stabilized…

Changes became fewer…

If you want to know how modern somebody’s M20C is…

Ask if they have the full length rudder, or if they have square windows…

Few people have the memory skills and patience to know what year the full length rudder came into production… or what all the updates were that occurred in 1965…

There is a really long spread sheet for that…. 
 

What matters…

If you have an Ovation… is it an O1, O2, O3, or O4?

Or is it a Standing O?  An O1 that is O3 Powered by a company called Rocket Engineering….  
 

Briefly, Serial numbers are important for the record keeping… each serial number is unique.  And, all records and change records, and ADs will note all the serial numbers that apply….

This important level of detail can’t use production year for anything but confusion… 

Probably the reason marketing and sales use production years as an important piece of data… 

PP thoughts only, not a manufacturing engineer…

Best regards,

-a-