C206 crash in Texas

[exM20K]

@EJETdriver thanks for the prelim.  It’s very sad.  
 

I’m surprised your company can’t put the sensors on a stabilized gimbal.  My ISR Diamond customers put some pretty sophisticated stuff on the DA42’s and a cool slide-out gimbal system on the side of the Gibbs Aero Van.  While that wouldn’t have directly mattered here, it would save the workload of extended uncoordinated flight.

perhaps the YouTube (and real-life) airplane crash expert will amend or delete his “certain-but-incorrect” analysis.  I doubt it.

-dan

[A64Pilot]

I don’t understand the concern about the Right seat not having ICS, Intercomms are a relatively new thing, never had them and yet we could talk to each other, using a loud voice maybe but still able to communicate, flight training was done before intercomms

[Boilermonkey]

12 minutes ago, A64Pilot said:

I don’t understand the concern about the Right seat not having ICS, Intercomms are a relatively new thing, never had them and yet we could talk to each other, using a loud voice maybe but still able to communicate, flight training was done before intercomms

Under normal circumstances perhaps, but when crew coordination is critical why create a barrier that can be cheaply solved.  ...and depending on the headsets and aircraft noise yelling might not be effective.

[Fly Boomer]

23 hours ago, A64Pilot said:

flight training was done before intercomms

Also before headsets and impending deafness.

[EJETdriver]

If you can’t understand how/why it might be a problem when an experienced pilot is unable to communicate with a trainee who is trying to fly/land a plane that is completely different than anything they’ve ever flown before…that’s pretty bad. I never said that was the cause here. I said that personally, that always made me nervous when flying that particular airplane. Maybe it was the CFI in me, and constantly maintaining defensive positioning ready to take the controls at any time. There were more than a few times that I had to take over when an approach became unstable and I called for a GA and the person didn’t execute it because they never heard me. 

[201Steve]

Company doesn’t skimp on inspections or Mx….but crew would like a very inexpensive intercom so they aren’t screaming at each other while working a 10 hour day together… airplane loaded with high tech equipment… comms stuck in 1980….

That just stuck out to me. 

[A64Pilot]

14 hours ago, EJETdriver said:

If you can’t understand how/why it might be a problem when an experienced pilot is unable to communicate with a trainee who is trying to fly/land a plane that is completely different than anything they’ve ever flown before…that’s pretty bad. I never said that was the cause here. I said that personally, that always made me nervous when flying that particular airplane. Maybe it was the CFI in me, and constantly maintaining defensive positioning ready to take the controls at any time. There were more than a few times that I had to take over when an approach became unstable and I called for a GA and the person didn’t execute it because they never heard me. 

That’s just the thing, you think that for some reason you can’t communicate without an intercom.

But you CAN communicate, it’s not even hard, they are sitting right beside you. It was done for decades, intercoms in GA aircraft didn’t even become a thing until the 80’s. You just have to speak up is all

What year did Mooney’s come with them from the factory?

Edited April 17, 2022 by A64Pilot