Mooney M20k 252 TSE 1985 Brakes / Pedals Right Side Passenger for Instructor

[Pierre]

Good evening everybody from Europe!

I own a Mooney M20k 252 TSE 1985. I am looking for a Brake Kit / Pedals and all its needed so my instructor can fly the plane from the right passenger side.

Does anyone have some used parts left? Can anyone else maybe help with an original part number?

I would appreciate every help! 

Best

[kortopates]

Parts for this are much harder to come by than you realize. Start with getting the IPC - Illustrated Parts Catalog for the K models. But Without spending a fortune you’re best bet is to find the parts salvage. This is a long term project at best.


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[Aerodon]

Pierre, 

First thing you need to determine is whether you have a 252 (use 231 parts) or an Encore conversion (use M20R and on brakes).  I have drawings and part numbers for you.

I have a complete set of M20R co-pilot pedals, master cylinders, and even the pipes and fittings to do the install in a 252.  I'm on the fence whether to install in my plane or not.....I could be persuaded to sell.

If your 252 has been converted to an Encore, it should have different brake actuators (dual cylinder), different master cylinders (Cleveland), and a different link (bell crank) on the bottom of the pedals.  Must be a different stroke of the Cleveland master cylinder?

And the pilots side are indeed slightly different.

I also have a set of 3" extensions for the co-pilots side - they are 'opposite' to pilots side.

And I have almost a full set of 231/252 brakes and pedals.. removed from a 252 for the encore conversion.

Aerodon

supercub180@gmail.com

(long enough for you Paul?)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Pierre]

8 hours ago, Aerodon said:

Pierre, 

First thing you need to determine is whether you have a 252 (use 231 parts) or an Encore conversion (use M20R and on brakes).  I have drawings and part numbers for you.

I have a complete set of M20R co-pilot pedals, master cylinders, and even the pipes and fittings to do the install in a 252.  I'm on the fence whether to install in my plane or not.....I could be persuaded to sell.

If your 252 has been converted to an Encore, it should have different brake actuators (dual cylinder), different master cylinders (Cleveland), and a different link (bell crank) on the bottom of the pedals.  Must be a different stroke of the Cleveland master cylinder?

And the pilots side are indeed slightly different.

I also have a set of 3" extensions for the co-pilots side - they are 'opposite' to pilots side.

And I have almost a full set of 231/252 brakes and pedals.. removed from a 252 for the encore conversion.

Aerodon

supercub180@gmail.com

(long enough for you Paul?)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thank you very much for your answer! My plane is a regular 252 TSE.  

I will contact you via e-mail if thats fine for you. We can also do a call then or a zoom call.

All the best, speak very soon

Pierre

[kortopates]

Boy Don, your the Brake Man! He can actually install the larger capacity master cylinders on the co-pilot side regardless of what is installed on the pilot side; at least till he opts to do the Encore upgrade.


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[Aerodon]

Anyone have the drawings, kit number or any information for the installation of RHS (co-pilot) brakes?  I have all the parts and can see how it goes together from the parts manual, just don't have the appropriate information for the logbook entry.

 

Aerodon

 

[shawnd]

Devil's advocate - assuming you are talking about using this airplane for instruction, perhaps find an instructor that is comfortable teaching / flying without brakes on the right hand side? That is an awful lot of work to make one instructor happy.

[Jerry Pressley]

brent at 423 273 3557 has rh brakes off and ready to ship

[KLRDMD]

On 1/4/2022 at 12:41 AM, shawnd said:

Devil's advocate - assuming you are talking about using this airplane for instruction, perhaps find an instructor that is comfortable teaching / flying without brakes on the right hand side? That is an awful lot of work to make one instructor happy.

I would think any competent high time Mooney instructor would be comfortable teaching from the right seat without brakes, for anything other than training for the private certificate maybe. I did my single engine commercial and CFII in my Mooney and the DPE was fine without having brakes.

[Pierre]

Thanks a lot for everybodies help! Will explore all mentioned options! <3

[201Steve]

I agree that the instructor is being a bit dramatic about things ASSUMING you are a rated pilot. If for example you’re  working on IR, you’re not looking for someone to teach you how to push the stoppy thing.