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Mooney Down Warwick, NY (N72) 04-28-21

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PilotFun101
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He had partial power loss.  Could not get out of ground effects.  He tried to accelerate over the lake but hit the trees near the old prison.  If anyone knows Warwick airport its a short runway so onc

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Thanks for posting those picks Richard (@Skates97) as it cleary shows in both examples we have means reasonably identify the middle of the runway. Warwik has the taxiway departing from 21L, yet depart

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For an E model book landing ground roll is 600ft, so 50/70 take off abort should be very doable even at a 2100” strip. I use a 1800” strip regularly and I like to be airborne by mid point. I limit mys

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If that was 1 POB with no injuries that is a great job flying it all the way to the end, even lost part of the wing but on the ground upright with what appears to be not much damage to the cabin.

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Hank Grand Master

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Wow! What a ride that must have been! And a great job maintaining control, like Bob Hoover used to say (fly as far into the crash as possible).

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Wow!  How did that wing shear like that?  Looks like it was cleanly cut off.

It just takes a big enough tree...


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EricJ Grand Master

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15 minutes ago, Mufflerbearing said:

Wow!  How did that wing shear like that?  Looks like it was cleanly cut off.

Just outside the boundary of the fuel tank, too.

In a case like that I think I'd be torn about selecting the trees or just landing in the water, but I can't tell from the pics what the real options were here.

 

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I haven't heard anything more.  But I have seen some pics from different angles.  Looks like s/he ended up right on the edge of a pretty good sized field and came up just a little bit short or his/her intended emergency landing strip.

 

Marauder Grand Master

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The airport looks really familiar. Hey Stinky Pants or Rob, is this the airport we had a Mooney get together at?

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50 minutes ago, Marauder said:

The airport looks really familiar. Hey Stinky Pants or Rob, is this the airport we had a Mooney get together at?

Yes, a few years ago...

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@Marauder   Not sure what your map is showing, that's not where the plane went down.  Much further south by Whickham Lake @ N72.

The FlightAware track appears to only be a portion of the flight.

 

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13 minutes ago, PeteMc said:

@Marauder   Not sure what your map is showing, that's not where the plane went down.  Much further south by Whickham Lake @ N72.

The FlightAware track appears to only be a portion of the flight.

 

Yeah, I was just pointing out what FlightAware had captured and where that was relative to the airport. The sad part is that the registration for the new owner was filed at the end of March.

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You know a hard enough hit to shear off the wing and of course break the spar off, had to spin the aircraft. I believe it’s still pointed roughly in the direction of travel? If so then he spun a full 360?

Had to be one heck of a ride.

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11 hours ago, EricJ said:

In a case like that I think I'd be torn about selecting the trees or just landing in the water, but I can't tell from the pics what the real options were here.

 

There is a small puddle in the pic, but I think it would have taken pretty good aim to land there.  :lol:

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A64Pilot Grand Master

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Between trees and water, I’ll always go for the water, but I’m real comfortable in the water, if I couldn’t swim, it might be different.

‘Local guy crashed his Ag plane in between two oaks, it stopped immediately. the engine and hopper etc ripped loose and kept going, he unbuckled his harness and stepped out straight forward, everything in front of the seat including the instrument panel was 50 feet ahead.

‘Trees are tough.

‘A retract airplane is much, much better off ditching than a fixed gear, a fixed gear it’s pretty violent, assuming not huge waves, it’s often not for a retract.

Check out that video of the TBM ditching, of course it looked like he was very lightly loaded

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aviatoreb Grand Master

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1 hour ago, kortopates said:

FAA incidents/accidents reports list the accident with 1 serious injury

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Not to be morbid but I am worrying about the guy and hoping that serious might not be horribly serious.  I am guessing that the NTSB has some chart of injury that drives what categories a crash as having serious injury.  I.e., is broken legs or something serious or does it need to be worse than that.  Here is hoping to this guy isn't so bad and will have a smooth road to full recovery.

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@aviatorebI hope for the same.

Serious injury means any injury which: (1) Requires hospitalization for more than 48 hours, commencing within 7 days from the date of the injury was received; (2) results in a fracture of any bone (except simple fractures of fingers, toes, or nose); (3) causes severe hemorrhages, nerve, muscle, or tendon damage; (4) involves any internal organ; or (5) involves second- or third-degree burns, or any burns affecting more than 5 percent of the body surface.

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2 minutes ago, smwash02 said:

@aviatorebI hope for the same.

Serious injury means any injury which: (1) Requires hospitalization for more than 48 hours, commencing within 7 days from the date of the injury was received; (2) results in a fracture of any bone (except simple fractures of fingers, toes, or nose); (3) causes severe hemorrhages, nerve, muscle, or tendon damage; (4) involves any internal organ; or (5) involves second- or third-degree burns, or any burns affecting more than 5 percent of the body surface.

Thanks - ok leave it to the govt I knew they would have an explicit definition of serious.  I see serious has some injuries which are less bad.  Hoping he has some less bad injuries and is out and about on to a full recovery soon.

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