Stetson20 Posted April 1, 2021 Report Posted April 1, 2021 Well I just signed the intent to buy. I'll be minority shareholder with my credit union on the 1985 Rocket that was listed on All American Aircraft. The pre-buy went well. Thanks to Chris @MIm20c and Paul @PJClark for their helpful input! This plane has had one owner since the mid-90s. It's been well taken care of although the panel, interior and paint are dated. The engine and airframe are solid with no major issues. First order of business when she's mine is to name her then install an engine monitor. The owner flew it for many hours using the Rocket Engineering suggested power settings. I'm super excited to start my Mooney ownership journey for the 2nd time. 11 1 Quote
Hank Posted April 1, 2021 Report Posted April 1, 2021 Congrats and welcime back! She looks nice in the pictures. 1 Quote
carusoam Posted April 1, 2021 Report Posted April 1, 2021 Congrats Stetson! You changed your funny avatar pic... Got any training on the schedule? Rockets are cool! Best regards, -a- 1 Quote
Stetson20 Posted April 1, 2021 Author Report Posted April 1, 2021 1 minute ago, carusoam said: Congrats Stetson! You changed your funny avatar pic... Got any training on the schedule? Rockets are cool! Best regards, -a- Yep, turned in the family truckster (National Lampoon's Vacation reference) for the mid-life crisis mobile! I have a local CFI who has flown Mooney's scheduled in a couple weeks for some orientation flights. I am also going to buy Paul @PJClark lunch & pick his brain as he took a similar path- he took a solid but dated Rocket and modernized it. I'm really excited to be flying a Mooney again! 2 Quote
KLRDMD Posted April 1, 2021 Report Posted April 1, 2021 3 minutes ago, Stetson20 said: I have a local CFI who has flown Mooney's scheduled in a couple weeks for some orientation flights. Might be a good transition instructor, might not. How much has he flown Mooneys? 5 hours, probably not the best choice. 100 hours? Still probably not the best choice. But you have to make that call (you and your insurance company). 1 Quote
Stetson20 Posted April 1, 2021 Author Report Posted April 1, 2021 50 minutes ago, KLRDMD said: Might be a good transition instructor, might not. How much has he flown Mooneys? 5 hours, probably not the best choice. 100 hours? Still probably not the best choice. But you have to make that call (you and your insurance company). Very good point. I've looked around for a CFI/II with Mooney Rocket experience- but haven't had a lot of luck. Any suggestions? As an aside, he is the resident M20F CFI for the local flight school/flying club. They do have an older Mooney that they use for complex/high performance endorsements. Quote
carusoam Posted April 1, 2021 Report Posted April 1, 2021 Stetson has some prior experience... So getting additional value out of the transition training... it would be optimum to fly with a Rocket pilot... Focus on the specifics of turbo ops, and getting to the FLs... high altitude cruise, and O2 systems.... Stetson, you are in Michigan? We can invite @Yooper Rocketman to the conversation... Tom may have some suggestions... Go MS! Best regards, -a- 1 1 Quote
Stetson20 Posted April 1, 2021 Author Report Posted April 1, 2021 21 minutes ago, carusoam said: Stetson has some prior experience... So getting additional value out of the transition training... it would be optimum to fly with a Rocket pilot... Focus on the specifics of turbo ops, and getting to the FLs... high altitude cruise, and O2 systems.... Stetson, you are in Michigan? We can invite @Yooper Rocketman to the conversation... Tom may have some suggestions... Go MS! Best regards, -a- Yes- now at Hastings 9D9. And what little M20E time I had, I've forgotten a lot of it. They say the memory is the 2nd thing to go. I can't remember the first. Quote
Yooper Rocketman Posted April 1, 2021 Report Posted April 1, 2021 I’m not a CFII, but have nearly 2000 hours of Rocket time. I get to lower Michigan regularly so might be able to hook up if interested. I’m pretty sure you’ll find few people out there with the combination of flight time and maintenance experience I have specific to the Rocket. Let me know. Tom 5 Quote
Stetson20 Posted April 1, 2021 Author Report Posted April 1, 2021 6 hours ago, Yooper Rocketman said: I’m not a CFII, but have nearly 2000 hours of Rocket time. I get to lower Michigan regularly so might be able to hook up if interested. I’m pretty sure you’ll find few people out there with the combination of flight time and maintenance experience I have specific to the Rocket. Let me know. Tom Tom, I'm at Hastings 9D9. Mark Anderson from the EAA speaks well of you and your beautiful airplanes (Rocket and Lancair). Whenever you get down this way, I'll buy you lunch and pick your brain on all things Rocket. My wife has an aunt in Escanaba so I'm sure we will be up your way soon. I'll make it a point to call on ya at IMT -Roy 2 Quote
KLRDMD Posted April 1, 2021 Report Posted April 1, 2021 8 hours ago, Yooper Rocketman said: I’m not a CFII, but have nearly 2000 hours of Rocket time. I get to lower Michigan regularly so might be able to hook up if interested. I’m pretty sure you’ll find few people out there with the combination of flight time and maintenance experience I have specific to the Rocket. In the past I have had an insurance company allow a non-CFI pilot do my transition training into an airplane I had no M&M time in. It was only a checkout, no formal hours required and I am a CFI so maybe those were the differences. And of course my broker its awesome. That may be worth investigating. Alternatively, fly with a CFI as required by insurance then really learn the airplane from Tom. 2 1 Quote
mooneyflyfast Posted April 1, 2021 Report Posted April 1, 2021 If you are picking the plane up at All American there is an instructor at 1T7 named Brian Lloyd who flies a Rocket—-around the world in fact. 1 Quote
Stetson20 Posted April 1, 2021 Author Report Posted April 1, 2021 Just now, mooneyflyfast said: If you are picking the plane up at All American there is an instructor at 1T7 named Brian Lloyd who flies a Rocket—-around the world in fact. It's actually here in MI. The plane was in IN and the owner was nice enough to bring it here for the pre-buy. Quote
louisut Posted April 1, 2021 Report Posted April 1, 2021 19 minutes ago, mooneyflyfast said: If you are picking the plane up at All American there is an instructor at 1T7 named Brian Lloyd who flies a Rocket—-around the world in fact. It was an M20K but not a Rocket, as I recall. He sold it recently, but still provides upset and transition training. He was my transition CFI for the Rocket I fly. OP congrats! Definitely get that engine monitor, it will help make that engine last. Also, keep in mind that Rocket Engineering's "economy cruise" setting came before CSB09-11A, which specifies 2300 RPM minimum in cruise (http://www.tcmlink.com/pdf2/CSB09-11A.pdf). 1 1 Quote
Stetson20 Posted April 1, 2021 Author Report Posted April 1, 2021 Just now, louisut said: It was an M20K but not a Rocket, as I recall. He sold it recently, but still provides upset and transition training. He was my transition CFI for the Rocket I fly. OP congrats! Definitely get that engine monitor, it will help make that engine last. Also, keep in mind that Rocket Engineering's "economy cruise" setting came before CSB09-11A, which specifies 2300 RPM minimum in cruise (http://www.tcmlink.com/pdf2/CSB09-11A.pdf). As I recall he used 2300 at cruise.. Quote
aviatoreb Posted April 1, 2021 Report Posted April 1, 2021 Just now, louisut said: It was an M20K but not a Rocket, as I recall. He sold it recently, but still provides upset and transition training. He was my transition CFI for the Rocket I fly. OP congrats! Definitely get that engine monitor, it will help make that engine last. Also, keep in mind that Rocket Engineering's "economy cruise" setting came before CSB09-11A, which specifies 2300 RPM minimum in cruise (http://www.tcmlink.com/pdf2/CSB09-11A.pdf). Good on you for remind him the AD vs the book economy cruise setting. I generally no longer cruise at 2200 because of it. 1 Quote
Stetson20 Posted April 14, 2021 Author Report Posted April 14, 2021 Closed today! Start training next week! I'm once again a happy Mooney owner! 3 1 Quote
aviatoreb Posted April 14, 2021 Report Posted April 14, 2021 3 minutes ago, Stetson20 said: Closed today! Start training next week! I'm once again a happy Mooney owner! Congratulations! Welcome to the ROCKET CLUB! 1 Quote
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