R-Banger Posted July 20, 2020 Report Posted July 20, 2020 Wondering if my local SoCal friends have some good recommendations on where I can get my bird a desperately needed wash? Quote
elimansour Posted July 20, 2020 Report Posted July 20, 2020 It’s a little far south but KSEE has a wash rack in the East transient ramp to the east of the terminal (between 27L and 35). Quote
elimansour Posted July 20, 2020 Report Posted July 20, 2020 Maybe we can have a Mooney washing party!! 1 Quote
kortopates Posted July 20, 2020 Report Posted July 20, 2020 (edited) I've been know to have Belly Cleaning parties regularly - all are invited and as a good host, I even supply the towels! Honestly though, I would never take a hose to my mistress. Cleaning her in the hangar is much better for her. I surely do remember when I was a new airplane owner and I had just rented my first hangar and I asked the guy where do people wash their planes? I couldn't even find a hose anywhere. I was shocked when he said everyone "dry washed" their planes in the hangar and he then showed me a bottle of cleaner wax he would spray on and wipe a 1'x1' section clean with a rag to show me. I was going something like really?!? There is got to be better way like washing a car? It wasn't for a few more years that I learned in A&P school how important it was to treat our aluminum mistresses with a much more delicate nature to avoid a premature death from corrosion. So I've never used a wash rack and expect I never will. Besides, Belly cleaning parties in the hangar are so much more fun among friends. Technically you don't even need a hangar, shade will do. Edited July 20, 2020 by kortopates Quote
Tim Jodice Posted July 20, 2020 Report Posted July 20, 2020 Are there no aluminum safe soaps available? Quote
MrRodgers Posted July 20, 2020 Report Posted July 20, 2020 I use Wash Wax All. It’s easily available at Aircraft Spruce. They also have a degreaser product that is great as a belly wash. I wouldn’t use anything else on my plane. I’m based at Van Nuys anytime someone wants to meet up. 4 Quote
ArtVandelay Posted July 20, 2020 Report Posted July 20, 2020 I use Wash Wax All. It’s easily available at Aircraft Spruce. They also have a degreaser product that is great as a belly wash. I wouldn’t use anything else on my plane. I’m based at Van Nuys anytime someone wants to meet up. You have your own hangar at Van Nuys? Who’d did you have to kill? ;-) 1 Quote
R-Banger Posted July 22, 2020 Author Report Posted July 22, 2020 Well learn something new every day will go the dry wash route. Quote
MB65E Posted July 22, 2020 Report Posted July 22, 2020 I have a good friend that details Cars and aircraft. He has his C.O.P.s for most SoCal airports and insurance. There is also a wash rack at SMO. We spent 4-5hrs together on a Sunday a few weeks ago and really did wonders on the airplane. -Matt Quote
R-Banger Posted July 26, 2020 Author Report Posted July 26, 2020 On 7/21/2020 at 9:10 PM, MB65E said: I have a good friend that details Cars and aircraft. He has his C.O.P.s for most SoCal airports and insurance. There is also a wash rack at SMO. We spent 4-5hrs together on a Sunday a few weeks ago and really did wonders on the airplane. -Matt Oh nice, yeah I went to town on the plane with the wash wax all today. Got the wings and nose done before the kiddo got tired. Crazy how well that stuff works, I was not expecting it. On another note, I had no idea there was a wash rack at SMO. Where is it located? 2 Quote
ZuluZulu Posted July 26, 2020 Report Posted July 26, 2020 2 minutes ago, R-Banger said: Oh nice, yeah I went to town on the plane with the wash wax all today. Got the wings and nose done before the kiddo got tired. Crazy how well that stuff works, I was not expecting it. On another note, I had no idea there was a wash rack at SMO. Where is it located? Roughly, opposite side of the runway across from self-serve fuel. Quote
R-Banger Posted July 26, 2020 Author Report Posted July 26, 2020 Thanks, will check it out. With how SMO is, I just assumed there would be some endangered fish or temperamental bird that would be offended by us having a wash rack so I went straight to probably not allowed. Quote
jetdriven Posted July 26, 2020 Report Posted July 26, 2020 PTI degreaser is like magic on the belly. Pro wash ph neutral soap for the rest. Spruce has both. 1 Quote
MB65E Posted July 27, 2020 Report Posted July 27, 2020 Just to the west of Atlantic. I’ll see if they keep it locked or not this week. Good Info Byron, thanks. -Matt Quote
tmo Posted July 28, 2020 Report Posted July 28, 2020 Is the "no hose" applicable to grass strip based planes as well? As in, will the "dry wash" stuff work on the specks of mud that end up on the undersides of the wings and in wheel wells? Or is the mud washed off with plenty of low pressure water and the rest the "dry wash" route? Quote
carusoam Posted July 29, 2020 Report Posted July 29, 2020 Use extra caution using low volumes of water on gritty type dirt.... You don’t want to end up with sandy dirt in the cleaning towel... sanding and scratching things.... PP thoughts only, -a- Quote
NotarPilot Posted August 7, 2020 Report Posted August 7, 2020 On 7/19/2020 at 11:41 PM, kortopates said: I've been know to have Belly Cleaning parties regularly - all are invited and as a good host, I even supply the towels! Honestly though, I would never take a hose to my mistress. Cleaning her in the hangar is much better for her. I surely do remember when I was a new airplane owner and I had just rented my first hangar and I asked the guy where do people wash their planes? I couldn't even find a hose anywhere. I was shocked when he said everyone "dry washed" their planes in the hangar and he then showed me a bottle of cleaner wax he would spray on and wipe a 1'x1' section clean with a rag to show me. I was going something like really?!? There is got to be better way like washing a car? It wasn't for a few more years that I learned in A&P school how important it was to treat our aluminum mistresses with a much more delicate nature to avoid a premature death from corrosion. So I've never used a wash rack and expect I never will. Besides, Belly cleaning parties in the hangar are so much more fun among friends. Technically you don't even need a hangar, shade will do. I’ve washed mine with water several times and always dried it by flying it. I guess I did it wrong all these years. (Face Palm) Quote
StevenL757 Posted September 1, 2020 Report Posted September 1, 2020 On 7/20/2020 at 7:08 AM, MrRodgers said: I use Wash Wax All. It’s easily available at Aircraft Spruce. They also have a degreaser product that is great as a belly wash. I wouldn’t use anything else on my plane. Yeah, same here. Saves from having to hose the entire airplane down and potentially getting water into places where it shouldn't be. I may even go further and take Paul's @gsxrpilot recommendation on a ceramic treatment for the paint at some point. Have to read back through those threads... Quote
steingar Posted September 1, 2020 Report Posted September 1, 2020 If your airplane corrodes because it was washed with a hose there's something seriously wrong. Are you guys telling me you wouldn't fly through a rain shower? 2 3 Quote
N201MKTurbo Posted September 1, 2020 Report Posted September 1, 2020 I've actually seen airplanes parked outside during heavy rain OMG! 1 2 Quote
jrwilson Posted September 1, 2020 Report Posted September 1, 2020 Fullerton has a wash rack by the tower. Quote
Seymour Posted September 1, 2020 Report Posted September 1, 2020 Excellent advice here (as always). Threw a belly washing party this past Saturday, with pizza, beverages and music! Light hose mist followed by Wash Wax All to clean the dirt followed by it's first real wax (Mothers Pure Brazilian Carnauba) since the new paint. Unfortunately, due to social distancing, it was a "party of one" and took my entire day, but WOW, it made a big difference. It's finally time for a new avatar! Also purchased the ceramic coating recommended in the other thread, but waiting for a long term update before using it..... 2 Quote
PJClark Posted September 1, 2020 Report Posted September 1, 2020 No-hose method: First: GTechniq W5 citrus all purpose cleaner--diluted per instructions in large spray bottle microfiber towels (cheap ones) comfortable padded mechanic's creeper use the above to degrease the belly a section at a time (3' x 3' or belly panels it'll be obvious) meanwhile mix up: Optimum no rinse approx 1 oz in a large spray bottle more microfiber towels Use the ONR and towels to remove soap residue from step 1 as panels are completed on the belly. Spray on ONR until wet, wipe dry with towel, polish with a dry towel. Fuselage, top of wings, etc: Optimum no rinse--1 oz in 2 gallons of water Optimum Big Red Sponge see amazon 5 gallon bucket ($3 at home store) microfiber towels (get the yellow ones, kirkland brand, see amazon) method--thoroughly wet big red sponge in ONR solultion in bucket, squeeze out so it's still dripping, gently sqeeze and then wipe a panel of the plane (again this is obvious, about 3x3 but whatever feels right and still very "wet") -dry with a yellow microfiber towel -polish/really dry with a fresh, dry microfiber towel. repeat until airplane is completely clean. then -GTechniq Liquid Crystal C2V3 (see Amazon, get 500 ml) -more yellow kirkland towels method: spray a nice looking amount , droplets generously on a panel (see above). wipe with a yellow towel. polish with a fresh towel. Repeat until whole plane is complete. it's foolproof and it looks like this when done. look closely for reflections 3 1 Quote
gsxrpilot Posted September 1, 2020 Report Posted September 1, 2020 Just now, PJClark said: What a nice Rocket! 1 Quote
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