bonal Posted October 16, 2018 Report Posted October 16, 2018 Over the years as a member of AOPA I have begun to suspect that they don't like Mooneys. Of coarse they had to do an article on the Ultra as all the other publications were covering the release of the new model. But other than the paid add on page one you will be hard pressed to find any mention of our beloved M,s let alone a photo. So I'm looking through the newest edition of AOPA Pilot and to my surprise they have the M20J listed on their budget buy where they do a brief review of a used model each month. I must say the comments were not very complimentary. Not really bad but certainly not very complimentary. Whenever they cover big fly in events both in publications and on their weekly live show there is never a shot with a Mooney in view. Anyway it just seems a little odd. Do any of you get the same notion. Quote
LANCECASPER Posted October 17, 2018 Report Posted October 17, 2018 Maybe it's all of the ads they never got paid for all of the times when Mooney bankrupt Actually in the 90's and early 2000's they did great articles on the Bravo, Encore, Ovation, Acclaim. Quote
Bob_Belville Posted October 17, 2018 Report Posted October 17, 2018 Someone, @mooneygirl(?), needs to give Senior Editor jill.tallman@aopa.org a ride in a Mooney. (What's MooneyTalk?) Quote
Jeff_S Posted October 17, 2018 Report Posted October 17, 2018 I have never noticed any anti-Mooney bias with AOPA. I think they try hard to be vendor neutral and pretty much love all airplanes. The fact that you don’t see as many Mooney airplanes in air show photos could be related to the fact that there just aren’t as many Mooneys in the fleet as there are other manufacturers. I haven’t read the used plane review you mention, but these articles usually try to give a balanced opinion for every plane so they don’t tend to be glowing. 4 Quote
kortopates Posted October 17, 2018 Report Posted October 17, 2018 For being only 1-2% of the GA fleet I think we get our fair share of coverage.I agree AOPA has been very neutral. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote
201er Posted October 17, 2018 Report Posted October 17, 2018 1 hour ago, Jeff_S said: I have never noticed any anti-Mooney bias with AOPA. More like an anti-ga bias if you ask me. They’re an equal opportunity bigot. Quote
bonal Posted October 17, 2018 Author Report Posted October 17, 2018 Mooney talk ? Yes I noticed that too I've never heard of it and I bet they meant Mooney Space. Again just goes to my point of not having much love for our brand. I agree we are a low percentage of the GA brand but I can say that just about every where we fly there are other Mooney's parked around the Tarmac to be seen. Quote
KSMooniac Posted October 17, 2018 Report Posted October 17, 2018 That piece just had a lot of things flat out wrong. I don't think the author has ever been in a J, and just did some cursory internet research and threw a poor column together.I don't think there is an anti-Mooney bias at AOPA. I've been a member for 27 years ago far and got real excited when they did a J refurb for their sweepstakes plane back in 2000-ish. There were lots of good articles that year especially.Sent from my LG-US996 using Tapatalk Quote
kpaul Posted October 17, 2018 Report Posted October 17, 2018 6 hours ago, KSMooniac said: That piece just had a lot of things flat out wrong. I don't think the author has ever been in a J, and just did some cursory internet research and threw a poor column together. I don't think there is an anti-Mooney bias at AOPA. I've been a member for 27 years ago far and got real excited when they did a J refurb for their sweepstakes plane back in 2000-ish. There were lots of good articles that year especially. Sent from my LG-US996 using Tapatalk That J flew in the Mooney Caravan to Oshkosh this year... Quote
DualRatedFlyer Posted October 17, 2018 Report Posted October 17, 2018 He is also a member here. Quote
INA201 Posted October 17, 2018 Report Posted October 17, 2018 I don’t feel a real negative bias overall. I do think the J is not at a price point that they indicated in the article thus probably not a budget buy. I think a C is a true bang for the buck budget buy even though I own a J. Quote
DAVIDWH Posted October 17, 2018 Report Posted October 17, 2018 No worries mate, Fords and Chevrolets get a lot more publicity than Ferraries and Aston Martins. (V12- 220 mph-1.4M) Any bias noted is a Non Sequitur. 1 Quote
steingar Posted October 17, 2018 Report Posted October 17, 2018 Bigger problems with AOPA than the lack of focus on Mooneys... 2 Quote
warren.huisman Posted October 17, 2018 Report Posted October 17, 2018 I don't feel their is a bias against Mooney's by AOPA. AOPA picked the 201 for their Millennium sweepstakes because they wanted something special to commemorate the turn of the century. The cover of the edition which featured the almost finished sweepstakes airplane was "Prize of the Century". Previously, the "best" airplanes they gave away was an Arrow and a Cessna 206. The Mooney is far sexier and efficient than either of them. Quote
mike_elliott Posted October 18, 2018 Report Posted October 18, 2018 On 10/16/2018 at 10:12 PM, Bob_Belville said: Someone, @mooneygirl(?), needs to give Senior Editor jill.tallman@aopa.org a ride in a Mooney. (What's MooneyTalk?) Mooney talk is a political list serve set up by -javier henderson to keep the Little Timmy's off the mooney@aviating.com and mooney-tech@aviating.com list servers. While not as active as these lists once were, they still have some activity on them. The Mooney Talk list was all about bashing the other side of the isle and anything NON Mooney. see http://lists.aviating.com/mailman/listinfo Jolie @mooneygirl -jav set up a list just for Spousal and friends who fly right seat about 15 years ago if you are interested in using it. See http://lists.aviating.com/mailman/listinfo/mooney-rs 1 Quote
Bob_Belville Posted October 18, 2018 Report Posted October 18, 2018 4 hours ago, mike_elliott said: Mooney talk is a political list serve set up by -javier henderson to keep the Little Timmy's off the mooney@aviating.com and mooney-tech@aviating.com list servers. While not as active as these lists once were, they still have some activity on them. The Mooney Talk list was all about bashing the other side of the isle and anything NON Mooney. see http://lists.aviating.com/mailman/listinfo Jolie @mooneygirl -jav set up a list just for Spousal and friends who fly right seat about 15 years ago if you are interested in using it. See http://lists.aviating.com/mailman/listinfo/mooney-rs I think she meant MooneySpace and wrote MooneyTalk. I read the article in Pilot and I did not come away thinking that AOPA was against Mooney, I doubt that they are. What struck me was that the article was poorly researched. Quote
kortopates Posted October 18, 2018 Report Posted October 18, 2018 3 hours ago, Bob_Belville said: I think she meant MooneySpace and wrote MooneyTalk. I read the article in Pilot and I did not come away thinking that AOPA was against Mooney, I doubt that they are. What struck me was that the article was poorly researched. I agree 100% Its a very brief article, many facts are wrong, but what more we can we expect from Cherokee 140 pilot that got her info from browsing MooneySpace! (with all due respect to Jill ) 1 Quote
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