How much can your Mooney carry with full fuel?

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  On 12/5/2016 at 4:09 AM, N1395W said:

I agree!

I get ForeFlight for free for my work and I still pay to have Garmin Pilot for my personal use.  I'm not calling it a bad app, I'm saying it is my least favorite.

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Andy, 

Since you use both Garmin Pilot and ForeFlight regularly, can you touch on the strengths of each app and why you like them? I find a lot of folks will defend the app they use, but don't have any real experience with the others. I am currently using ForeFlight just because that's what my Instrument instructor uses.

Steve

 

[Andy95W]

Steve- I definitely admit my opinion is largely based upon personal preference and what I used first, which was Garmin Pilot.

Specifically:

1.) I prefer flight planning on Garmin Pilot because for me the process is more intuitive

      1.a) I actually prefer flight planning on CSC DUATS (which is similar to the printed flight planning paperwork I get at work).  I then build the flight plan in Garmin Pilot

2.) The menus and architecture are very similar to the portable Garmin Aera I use, and from what I've seen, also very similar to the GTN series.

3.) For me, it is easier to find approach plates

4.) I think it is easier to change charts, overlays, etc. for what I want to see during a flight

5.) I prefer the Garmin Pilot map display while flying, which to me has less wasted space than ForeFlight

6.) ForeFlight seems to be more of a memory hog than Garmin Pilot.  If nothing else, it certainly takes less time for Garmin to update charts than ForeFlight.

     6.a) I like being able to tell Garmin Pilot which charts I want it to download, kind of like going to the FBO and buying my charts old school.  In ForeFlight you download by state which seems clunky and odd to me.

7.) I have Garmin Pilot auto-update my charts as they become available.  If one of my downloaded charts gets revised, Garmin Pilot automatically downloads the new one. (I bet ForeFlight will probably have this option soon.)

It really comes down to my personal preference and what I started with first.  You should probably keep using ForeFlight because your CFII uses it and he can show you some good tricks (I bet he could probably show me a bunch of cool stuff that I don't know how to do).

Garmin should still offer some sort of free trial, they seem to hand out free trial coupons at Oshkosh a lot.   It might be worthwhile at some point to give it a try and decide which one you like more.

[Marauder]

  On 12/5/2016 at 1:30 PM, Chupacabra said:

Andy, 

Since you use both Garmin Pilot and ForeFlight regularly, can you touch on the strengths of each app and why you like them? I find a lot of folks will defend the app they use, but don't have any real experience with the others. I am currently using ForeFlight just because that's what my Instrument instructor uses.

Steve

 

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I had both ForeFlight and Garmin Pilot loaded up on my iPads for 2 years before I dropped ForeFlight. Like Andy, it comes down to how the interface connects with you. I never liked the little buttons on the top of ForeFlight to put things into motion. GP has a home screen and with additional features being added, they are readily accessible from that home screen. Now with 8.5, you can even configure them the way you want to see them. To boot, it looks like my GTN navigator. 

I also gave WingX and FlyQ a ride. Neither of them stuck with me either.

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  On 12/5/2016 at 3:39 PM, N1395W said:

Steve- I definitely admit my opinion is largely based upon personal preference and what I used first, which was Garmin Pilot.

Specifically:

1.) I prefer flight planning on Garmin Pilot because for me the process is more intuitive

      1.a) I actually prefer flight planning on CSC DUATS (which is similar to the printed flight planning paperwork I get at work).  I then build the flight plan in Garmin Pilot

2.) The menus and architecture are very similar to the portable Garmin Aera I use, and from what I've seen, also very similar to the GTN series.

3.) For me, it is easier to find approach plates

4.) I think it is easier to change charts, overlays, etc. for what I want to see during a flight

5.) I prefer the Garmin Pilot map display while flying, which to me has less wasted space than ForeFlight

6.) ForeFlight seems to be more of a memory hog than Garmin Pilot.  If nothing else, it certainly takes less time for Garmin to update charts than ForeFlight.

     6.a) I like being able to tell Garmin Pilot which charts I want it to download, kind of like going to the FBO and buying my charts old school.  In ForeFlight you download by state which seems clunky and odd to me.

7.) I have Garmin Pilot auto-update my charts as they become available.  If one of my downloaded charts gets revised, Garmin Pilot automatically downloads the new one. (I bet ForeFlight will probably have this option soon.)

It really comes down to my personal preference and what I started with first.  You should probably keep using ForeFlight because your CFII uses it and he can show you some good tricks (I bet he could probably show me a bunch of cool stuff that I don't know how to do).

Garmin should still offer some sort of free trial, they seem to hand out free trial coupons at Oshkosh a lot.   It might be worthwhile at some point to give it a try and decide which one you like more.

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Andy,

Thank you kindly for the write up. I completely get the comfort level you have with using the app that you started with. I am reluctant to confuse myself with a new product but the intuitiveness you mention has a big appeal to me. Finding approach plates quickly is a good thing at this point in my training. The only downside I can see to switching is losing my AHRS through the Stratus 2. It looks like there is a 30 day trial available through the App Store so I think I'll give it a shot.

Steve

[carusoam]

In the beginning...

before there were iPads.   Electronic charts were just gaining traction...

then there were iPads and the apps were developing at break-neck speeds.

Select one on one day, the competitor would come up with something better.

Now they mostly do the same everything, and developments keep coming...

If you have a GTN it would make sense to stay integrated with the Garmin App

The BK app seems to have dissapeared... BK Whoooooooooo.....?

Best regards,

-a-

[SantosDumont]

Just bought my 1967 M20F two months ago. Has 96 GAL tanks. If I fill them up I can fit just me and go for 8-9 hours. Just did my first long XC two weeks ago, flew 750 miles from CA to the NM/TX border in 5 hours. Still had over 30 GAL let in the tanks. 

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  On 12/5/2016 at 3:27 AM, gsengle said:

It's night and day between here and POA :-o


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No doubt.  Constructive criticism vs insults. Everyone seems to be willing to help each other.