carusoam Posted November 14, 2016 Report Posted November 14, 2016 The piece is a build up, layer upon layer... under the stress of use or mounting, the layers separated. This is visible in the first photo. It has an interesting inter-layer where the stress required to separate layers is not as strong as the stress to break through a layer... There may be some variables to the printing process like using a higher temperature or a slower print speed that might improve the interlayer strength... overall this will effect the production rate and associated economics. Interesting....! Best regards, -a- Quote
Kefferch Posted December 20, 2016 Report Posted December 20, 2016 Does anyone have the 3D model file they are willing to share? I work with engineers that 3D print stuff all the time with access to nice printers and they only print in ABS. I'd be willing to print these test them and actually report back unless some of these flakes that some of you are reporting about lol. Quote
NotarPilot Posted December 28, 2016 Author Report Posted December 28, 2016 Okay guys, sorry for the delay but they finally got back to me with contact information for anyone who wants to make an order. As a reminder I have no affiliation with them and accept no responsibility for any order you place between yourself and them. I do believe they are legitimate but your orders may take a while. If someone wants to make a bulk purchase to get the costs down then please feel free. Here's part of the email I received... We can offer Switch Covers in a multitude of colors: Red, Blue, Green, Yellow, Orange, Silver, Black, White, Gray, Copper and Bronze. In addition, we handle a Pale Green, Transluscent, Glow in the Dark product that is perfect for switches having pilot lighting. (Thermal parameters of the lighting will require prototyping to ensure the appropriate application of product.)We can distribute to users you refer to us. Contact by texting Neil or Ian at NDesign, LLC 262-893-7272 or email to ndombroe@att.net The per unit price will be as follows,1-3units $12.00 each 4-6units $10.50 each7-9units $ 9.60 each10+units $ 8.80 eachAll orders will be charged $6.00 for shipping and handling. Standard UPS Ground.Allow 3 weeks for shipment. Expediting is available charged on a per order basis. All orders must be prepaid. 1 Quote
Marauder Posted December 28, 2016 Report Posted December 28, 2016 Okay guys, sorry for the delay but they finally got back to me with contact information for anyone who wants to make an order. As a reminder I have no affiliation with them and accept no responsibility for any order you place between yourself and them. I do believe they are legitimate but your orders may take a while. If someone wants to make a bulk purchase to get the costs down then please feel free. Here's part of the email I received...We can offer Switch Covers in a multitude of colors: Red, Blue, Green, Yellow, Orange, Silver, Black, White, Gray, Copper and Bronze. In addition, we handle a Pale Green, Transluscent, Glow in the Dark product that is perfect for switches having pilot lighting. (Thermal parameters of the lighting will require prototyping to ensure the appropriate application of product.)We can distribute to users you refer to us. Contact by texting Neil or Ian at NDesign, LLC 262-893-7272 or email to ndombroe@att.netThe per unit price will be as follows,1-3units $12.00 each4-6units $10.50 each7-9units $ 9.60 each10+units $ 8.80 eachAll orders will be charged $6.00 for shipping and handling. Standard UPS Ground.Allow 3 weeks for shipment. Expediting is available charged on a per order basis.All orders must be prepaid. Have you tried one of these?Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Quote
peevee Posted December 28, 2016 Report Posted December 28, 2016 sorry, they don't look any better than the ones on shapeways or whatever that site is. Quote
NotarPilot Posted December 29, 2016 Author Report Posted December 29, 2016 9 hours ago, Marauder said: Have you tried one of these? Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Yes, and it fit well but the plastic split on one of the covers. Quote
dcastor Posted January 11, 2017 Report Posted January 11, 2017 Layer separation may be solved by using a higher extrusion temperature, or bed temperature. I haven't seen that issue with my prints, it's likely we are using different settings. Quote
helitim Posted January 12, 2017 Report Posted January 12, 2017 Dcastor Reading some of your previous posts, I was hoping you would have printed a more successful and functional version. I really need a full set whenever someone comes up with a better fitting version. Tim Quote
NotarPilot Posted January 12, 2017 Author Report Posted January 12, 2017 6 hours ago, helitim said: Dcastor Reading some of your previous posts, I was hoping you would have printed a more successful and functional version. I really need a full set whenever someone comes up with a better fitting version. Tim The Shapeways v.6 are pretty good but you might want to consider the vinyl switch cover decals through Higher Graphics to make them look pretty. Quote
Marauder Posted January 12, 2017 Report Posted January 12, 2017 3 hours ago, NotarPilot said: The Shapeways v.6 are pretty good but you might want to consider the vinyl switch cover decals through Higher Graphics to make them look pretty. Pretty good as in they don't fit loosely? Quote
NotarPilot Posted January 12, 2017 Author Report Posted January 12, 2017 2 hours ago, Marauder said: Pretty good as in they don't fit loosely? Correct, they fit snug on mine but I think I used a tiny piece of scotch tape to accomplish this. I have a couple extra. If you want I can send you one if you want to try it out first before ordering a set. Email me your address. Quote
AH-1 Cobra Pilot Posted January 12, 2017 Report Posted January 12, 2017 13 hours ago, helitim said: I was hoping you would have printed a more successful and functional version. I really need a full set whenever someone comes up with a better fitting version. I am testing a dual extruder printer that may do a much better job. I plan to replace my whole set with new prints and will also sell the old ones. Standby for more... 1 Quote
TTaylor Posted January 12, 2017 Report Posted January 12, 2017 I am looking at the potential for injection molding. Steve sent me an STL file. If anyone has a 3D drawing file I would appreciate it. I would like to get one printed that we know is the correct dimensions before looking at making molds. I have about four broken now so would like to get ones we can use soon. Quote
AH-1 Cobra Pilot Posted January 12, 2017 Report Posted January 12, 2017 51 minutes ago, TTaylor said: I am looking at the potential for injection molding. Most injection molds cost $10,000-$15,000, unless you have a hand press, in which case I might be able to print a mold for one of those. Quote
carusoam Posted January 12, 2017 Report Posted January 12, 2017 Printing a mold... now that would be really impressive! You can modify the mold's dimensions to make a better mold based on experience. Once the mold is in proper shape, a selection of stronger polymers can be used. The melt temperature of the stronger ABS polymers is probably higher than the 3D printer polymer is... Best regards, -a- Quote
AH-1 Cobra Pilot Posted January 12, 2017 Report Posted January 12, 2017 2 hours ago, carusoam said: Printing a mold... now that would be really impressive! See this link: https://markforged.com/introducing-markforged-high-temperature-materials/ 1 Quote
n5756k Posted January 18, 2017 Report Posted January 18, 2017 I see this was written in August 2016, but I'm interested in a set for My M20J. Tom Moquin, tel 847 340-2325 Quote
n5756k Posted January 18, 2017 Report Posted January 18, 2017 Where did you get your interior placards? Quote
NotarPilot Posted January 18, 2017 Author Report Posted January 18, 2017 3 hours ago, n5756k said: Where did you get your interior placards? If this question was directed at me I got my placards from Higher Graphics out of Florida. Quote
dcastor Posted January 20, 2017 Report Posted January 20, 2017 I thought you all would like to see my latest revision. The text looks a bit streaky because it's just a magic marker (its a prototype), but the text is actually raised. I may try to do recessed letters and fill with paint (similar to the originals). This may be motivation to upgrade my 3d printer to two extruders so I can print in two colors. Please don't buy the ones for from this NDesign company... I can do better than their prints now and while I can't promise they would come out quickly, I would be glad to provide them for half what they are charging. Dave 3 Quote
Marauder Posted January 20, 2017 Report Posted January 20, 2017 I thought you all would like to see my latest revision. The text looks a bit streaky because it's just a magic marker (its a prototype), but the text is actually raised. I may try to do recessed letters and fill with paint (similar to the originals). This may be motivation to upgrade my 3d printer to two extruders so I can print in two colors. Please don't buy the ones for from this NDesign company... I can do better than their prints now and while I can't promise they would come out quickly, I would be glad to provide them for half what they are charging. Dave Dave - when you are ready for prime time, let me know how to buy them!Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Quote
Chocks Posted January 20, 2017 Report Posted January 20, 2017 Why dont you print the buttons and let me laser engrave the letters with color. It will save you lots of printing time and I can get super clean cutouts. Let me knowSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Quote
gsxrpilot Posted January 20, 2017 Report Posted January 20, 2017 I'll take a pair of blank ones and will let Chocks see what he can do with his laser. 1 Quote
dcastor Posted January 20, 2017 Report Posted January 20, 2017 16 minutes ago, "Chocks" said: Why dont you print the buttons and let me laser engrave the letters with color. It will save you lots of printing time and I can get super clean cutouts. Let me know Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk It's an interesting idea... I'm willing to send a couple your way to experiment with. PM me your mailing address please. The layers under the text is mostly solid plastic, but there are some voids the way I printed. Will that matter for your process? 1 Quote
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