Oldguy Posted October 27, 2015 Report Posted October 27, 2015 Start with the written and get it out of the way while continuing to fly the plane VFR. You will be able to apply some of what is in the written even flying VFR while becoming more and more at ease with your plane. I'll second what was said earlier about an iPad and a Stratux or even a Stratus. I mention the Stratus because it will give you a backup AI in ForeFlight, and I don't know if the Stratux does. On the GAMI analysis above, check to see how consistent it is across several flight profiles. On my J I find there are times every cylinder peaks at the same flow while other times it can be as much as 0.4 GPH apart. Most of all, have fun! 1 Quote
Browncbr1 Posted October 27, 2015 Author Report Posted October 27, 2015 Start with the written and get it out of the way while continuing to fly the plane VFR. You will be able to apply some of what is in the written even flying VFR while becoming more and more at ease with your plane. I'll second what was said earlier about an iPad and a Stratux or even a Stratus. I mention the Stratus because it will give you a backup AI in ForeFlight, and I don't know if the Stratux does. On the GAMI analysis above, check to see how consistent it is across several flight profiles. On my J I find there are times every cylinder peaks at the same flow while other times it can be as much as 0.4 GPH apart. Most of all, have fun! Thanks for the advice. I have an ipad and stratux... I think some people are working on getting AHRS working on it eventually... Regarding the gami analysis, this is typically what happens. Usually, 0.8 with the rear two cyclinders peaking at the same time well ahead of the front two peaking at the same time. Sometimes, more, sometimes less spread... but always 3&4 together and 1&2 together.. Quote
carusoam Posted October 27, 2015 Report Posted October 27, 2015 Fuel aroma in the cabin is often a leaky seal for the fuel sender. Easy low cost fix. Leaving a fuel leak in the cabin is a bad idea. Check the seal when you get a chance, -a- Quote
Browncbr1 Posted October 28, 2015 Author Report Posted October 28, 2015 Fuel aroma in the cabin is often a leaky seal for the fuel sender. Easy low cost fix. Leaving a fuel leak in the cabin is a bad idea. Check the seal when you get a chance, -a- I had already checked for that with the hope it would be the sender seal. It's coming from the aft top seam and had previously been externally patched. Fuel smell is only noticeable when opening baggage door after the cabin has been closed for 2 or 3 days with full tanks. If below the tab, there is much less smell. Quote
Parker_Woodruff Posted October 30, 2015 Report Posted October 30, 2015 Garmin SL-30 with indicator. Excellent Nav/Comm radio and you can listen to the frequency in standby. Quote
Parker_Woodruff Posted October 30, 2015 Report Posted October 30, 2015 (edited) I guess the GNC-255 replaced the SL-30? https://www.gulfcoastavionics.com/products/3825-gnc-255a.aspx Edited October 30, 2015 by Parker_Woodruff Quote
thinwing Posted October 30, 2015 Report Posted October 30, 2015 I can't seem to get a 430 installed for $5k, let alone a waas. I had thought about a 300xl... But, it seems useless spending money on instrument GPS unless you're willing to spend 10-15k your right..5k would be tough for a used 430w which would give you the most bang for the buck...7/8 k installed I think if purchased right. Quote
thinwing Posted October 30, 2015 Report Posted October 30, 2015 on rereading this topic...if his budget is 5k...that will just about cover the cost of 40 hrs av instruction,fuel.materials etc he will spend on IR...thats about what i spent back in 1984. Quote
Browncbr1 Posted October 30, 2015 Author Report Posted October 30, 2015 That's right. And today, my kx 155 nav display lost the first three digits of the selecting frequency flip flop. I already found a good ki208 for my kx170b. ;) Quote
N601RX Posted October 30, 2015 Report Posted October 30, 2015 These use finger type contacts and the display can be removed by sliding it upward gently after the front is removed. A light rubbing with a pencil eraser will clean the contacts on the display. Take care not to break the small glass protrusion on the back of the display. Quote
Browncbr1 Posted October 30, 2015 Author Report Posted October 30, 2015 These use finger type contacts and the display can be removed by sliding it upward gently after the front is removed. A light rubbing with a pencil eraser will clean the contacts on the display. Take care not to break the small glass protrusion on the back of the display. oh good. Can the faceplate be removed without pulling the radio out? Quote
mooneyflyfast Posted November 1, 2015 Report Posted November 1, 2015 For 5,000 you can get a King KLN94 installed. That's what I did in my 81 J several years ago. Non WAAS but It's enroute and approach approved and has better operating logic and a color display over the 89b. A 430w installed will cost you 9,000. In my opinion WAAS is overrated. If you need to fly an approach to 200' use the ILS or go to a nearby airport that has one. The pseudo glide slope you can live without. The most economical ADSB out units have self contained ADSB so you don't need it from a 430W. If you would like to see a picture of mine send me a pm with your email address. Tried to post a pic but to many mb and I am not capable of reducing the size. Quote
Browncbr1 Posted November 1, 2015 Author Report Posted November 1, 2015 For 5,000 you can get a King KLN94 installed. That's what I did in my 81 J several years ago. Non WAAS but It's enroute and approach approved and has better operating logic and a color display over the 89b. A 430w installed will cost you 9,000. In my opinion WAAS is overrated. If you need to fly an approach to 200' use the ILS or go to a nearby airport that has one. The pseudo glide slope you can live without. The most economical ADSB out units have self contained ADSB so you don't need it from a 430W. If you would like to see a picture of mine send me a pm with your email address. Tried to post a pic but to many mb and I am not capable of reducing the size. I had looked at the kln94, but I had considered it no more capable that a gnc300xl, and doesn't have comm integrated. You're right about waas source being integrated on many adsb boxes. I don't need waas approaches either. Are the map updates similar cost for King and garmin ifr units? Quote
FlyDave Posted November 1, 2015 Report Posted November 1, 2015 For 5,000 you can get a King KLN94 installed. That's what I did in my 81 J several years ago. Non WAAS but It's enroute and approach approved and has better operating logic and a color display over the 89b. A 430w installed will cost you 9,000. In my opinion WAAS is overrated. If you need to fly an approach to 200' use the ILS or go to a nearby airport that has one. The pseudo glide slope you can live without. The most economical ADSB out units have self contained ADSB so you don't need it from a 430W. If you would like to see a picture of mine send me a pm with your email address. Tried to post a pic but to many mb and I am not capable of reducing the size. Well, that is your opinion. But with the abundance of LPV approaches and lower minimums a WAAS GPS provides, the pilot has a lot more options. And with more options comes a higher margin of safety. Some of the benefits of WAAS/LPV are: Get out of the clag more frequently Less missed approaches Backup to ILS when NOTAM'ed OTS or GS or LOC down when flown A precision approach is easier to fly than a non-precision approach Then there's the convenience of getting to your intended destination more frequently. As illustrated in this thread - the WAAS box is considerably more expensive but I think the benefits and safety it provides is worth the extra expense - even if you have to wait a bit to get it. 1 Quote
carusoam Posted November 1, 2015 Report Posted November 1, 2015 The KLN94 often gets confused by iPad users as a touchscreen. The screen is pressure sensitive, but not in a good way. Not usually a problem by a KLN owner. It is funny when you find yourself naturally touching a screen that doesn't work that way... just my thoughts, I have a non-WAAS KL90B capable of navigating horizontal approaches, -a- Quote
mooneyflyfast Posted November 1, 2015 Report Posted November 1, 2015 I had looked at the kln94, but I had considered it no more capable that a gnc300xl, and doesn't have comm integrated. You're right about waas source being integrated on many adsb boxes. I don't need waas approaches either. Are the map updates similar cost for King and garmin ifr units? Don't know about Garmin but updates for the 94 are around $350/ per year. Quote
rbridges Posted November 2, 2015 Report Posted November 2, 2015 aren't the kx155 and kx170b both nav/comms? If you don't have an audio panel, do you use a toggle switch to go between radios? An audio panel may be a decent investment just to streamline things. As others have said, maybe use some cash to make sure everything is working smoothly. As far as the GPS situation, I'd hold out and get a GTN radio or one of the newer units from avidyne or BK when you decide the time is right. I don't think I'd pay to get a 430 and install it unless I got a smoking deal on it. If someone already has a 430 and wants to upgrade it to WAAS, I think it's smart, but not starting from scratch. Quote
Browncbr1 Posted November 2, 2015 Author Report Posted November 2, 2015 aren't the kx155 and kx170b both nav/comms? If you don't have an audio panel, do you use a toggle switch to go between radios? An audio panel may be a decent investment just to streamline things. As others have said, maybe use some cash to make sure everything is working smoothly. As far as the GPS situation, I'd hold out and get a GTN radio or one of the newer units from avidyne or BK when you decide the time is right. I don't think I'd pay to get a 430 and install it unless I got a smoking deal on it. If someone already has a 430 and wants to upgrade it to WAAS, I think it's smart, but not starting from scratch. yes, I just have a few switches right now. I'm currently investigating if the guys at PS engineering might work out a good deal on a prefabricated harness and a used 6000b. Based on some of the chart data discontinuance things I've just read, I think if I ever can afford ifr GPS, I would want it to be an Avidyne ifd440 (just about the only think that would make a 430 install a thought) or possibly BK if they come around by then. In my opinion, garmin, as a company just rapes its own customers. Quote
Seed3r Posted November 2, 2015 Report Posted November 2, 2015 Don't know about Garmin but updates for the 94 are around $350/ per year. Aviation consumer has a nice comparison of update costs http://www.aviationconsumer.com/issues/45_9/fullissue/1509_AC_Sept2015_lr.php Quote
Browncbr1 Posted November 2, 2015 Author Report Posted November 2, 2015 Wow, I didn't realize the new garmin units' data was so expensive! Quote
ArtVandelay Posted November 2, 2015 Report Posted November 2, 2015 Wow, I didn't realize the new garmin units' data was so expensive! Those are pilot paks, so if you are all in, you can update then as part of the bundle. Quote
Raptor05121 Posted November 6, 2015 Report Posted November 6, 2015 tl;dr'ed this entire thread.My vote- save up and get a 430W Quote
Browncbr1 Posted November 10, 2015 Author Report Posted November 10, 2015 I got a KI-208 with the plug.. I noticed that the previous owner didn't wire up the internal lighting, as the pin is missing from the relevant plug slot.. Does anyone know where I can get some of the female pins used for the KI-208/209 plugs without having to buy the entire plug? Quote
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