ADS-B is coming-What are you doing about it?

[cliffy]

Just a note on the anonymous feature of ADS-B It is written into the regs that you can set up ADS-B for anonymous use but it has to be done on the initial install set up. It can't be changed afterwards in flight. If used, one can not receive ANY ATC services in that mode. Can't go Class B or C or A if you need ATC. No flight following, no pop-up IFR approaches, nothing that ATC has to respond to. Might as well not even have it.

There will be NO anonymous flights anymore for corporate/executive aircraft period. THAT is BIG security issue for many companies. Think about oil companies or financial companies that fly all over the world that now have removed any identification from their airplanes (plain white paint jobs) and now block their N number from ATC. It's all about to stop for them. Full public disclosure is the official FAA mantra.

Secondly, if anyone thinks that ADS-B will not be proposed for user fees in the future you'd better think twice. Absolute perfect records of airspace use is waaay too easy for some to gloom onto for money.

As was said, precise identification (by N number)is not needed for ATC TIS services. Random codes would be just as useful for traffic depiction for all VFR traffic. IFR you have RADAR and you can be tracked that way for user fees if they ever want.

A system proposed here a few posts back that just relays the satellite signals back to the ground for position processing would also work and be totally anonymous in nature.

Can anyone say that this is not the start of user fees without Congressional action? Pay to play for everyone as the FAA dumps their upgrading costs onto the GA market. Again JMO

[Sabremech]

This mandate and others looming has me seriously contemplating ending my ownership of an airplane by 2020. It's losing the fun factor in a hurry for me!

[cliffy]

Sabermech- now that I am retired and fly for fun I'm with you and I have been doing this for 54 years.

I can remember flying over LAX in my C140 when there was no Class B, hell there wan't even a TCA. Just look at he TAC chart for LAX now! It's a zoo.

[ArtVandelay]

They already have perfect records of airplane ownership, if they want to assess fees, they can do it today, and even better they can do it without your plane leaving the hangar.

Companies won't own planes, Netjet will, and they will not publish who is renting them. So yes, there will be plenty of opportunity to fly incognito

[thinwing]

Fantom..I take you will not be installing ads-b equipment anytime soon??I just did mine and may live to regret it but I believe it wont be going away.I bought my Mooney to travel long distances ,frequently IFR.So if that means loss of privacy so be it.Since I fly IFR anyway...anyone who wants to can ID me.I do believe there will be pilots opting to hang it up just like they did 20 yrs ago when all the voluntary TRSA s became manditory class c airspace.The guys who want to just stick and rudder and avoid the airspaces dont really even need a Mooney.A lightsport or even ultralight will work for the 30 or 40 mile lunch run.Will ads-b be the nail in the coffen ?.Hope not..but who knows..I like you have seen a lot of changes to general avation...regards..kpc..ps...have you thought of self publishing and selling thru amazon/kindle avation themed adventure novels..I bet you could do well at it.

[fantom]

.....have you thought of self publishing and selling thru amazon/kindle avation themed adventure novels..I bet you could do well at it.

 

Great idea kpc, and I already have a good start.