DaV8or Posted June 27, 2010 Report Posted June 27, 2010 Anybody have a favorite checklist for an F they would like to share or a source of one to buy? My plane has none and it would be nice to have prior to my checkout. Thanks. Quote
flight2000 Posted June 27, 2010 Report Posted June 27, 2010 Dave, I use the checklists made by Surecheck. They are an accepted/guaranteed copy of the Owner’s Manual information. I bought both the abbreviated and full copies. The single is very handy and flows easier. The full goes more in depth on the emergency procedures. Single: http://www.skygeek.com/surecheck-private-rating-pro-version-quick-reference-aircraft-checklist.html Full: http://www.skygeek.com/mooney-full-version-checklist.html Brian Quote
Stefanovm Posted June 27, 2010 Report Posted June 27, 2010 Same comment as flight2000. In addition, it has emergency electric gear extension. That was not in the airplanes POH as it was an add on with no operating paperwork that I could find. This was a challenge on my first pre-buy in my E. Quote
mooneygirl Posted June 27, 2010 Report Posted June 27, 2010 When I was compiling one for the E, I did a google search and then combined printed and laminated. Here is a search for an F model: Hope this helps. http://www.google.com/search?q=Mooney+M20F+checklist&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a Quote
Ned Gravel Posted June 27, 2010 Report Posted June 27, 2010 Dave: Good luck in the search. You will find tons of suggestions about checklist formats and contents. I did when I went looking. In the end, it will probably be a custom job though. Different avionics with their own checks prior to this or that will end up moving your checklist away from any particular standard. As will your knowledge. For example, how many of us cycle the prop every time we fly, even if its the third or fourth flight of the day? How many of us do in-flight mag checks? Just two examples. Quote
flight2000 Posted June 27, 2010 Report Posted June 27, 2010 Never heard of an in-flight mag check?? I've only done them on the ground during the ground run (which also gets the prop cycle everytime...force of habit ). Why would you mess with the mags while flying though? Brian Quote
DaV8or Posted June 28, 2010 Author Report Posted June 28, 2010 Quote: KLRDMD It appears as though yours is one of only two 1966 F model Mooneys. Serial numbers 660003 and 660004 were 1966s and 670001 through 670539 were 1967 models. Yours is 660004. Quote
DaV8or Posted June 28, 2010 Author Report Posted June 28, 2010 Quote: flight2000 Never heard of an in-flight mag check?? I've only done them on the ground during the ground run (which also gets the prop cycle everytime...force of habit ). Why would you mess with the mags while flying though? Brian Quote
DaV8or Posted June 28, 2010 Author Report Posted June 28, 2010 Quote: GeorgePerry Sent you a PM. Quote
danb35 Posted June 28, 2010 Report Posted June 28, 2010 Quote: flight2000 Never heard of an in-flight mag check?? Quote
Ned Gravel Posted June 28, 2010 Report Posted June 28, 2010 Dan sums it up well. Mag checks on the ground are not sufficient to tell you if you have a problem. My first in-flight mag check occurs at 1000' (still time to turn around and head back). This technique was part of John Deakin's bag of tricks and the folks at GAMI. RPM drop is almost negligible. Temps are the indicator to focus on and an engine monitor is required. I learned a lot of that sort of stuff from a list just like this one. It is their biggest value to our community. Quote
DonMuncy Posted June 28, 2010 Report Posted June 28, 2010 For checklists, I suggest you copy or write down the one from your POH, go through your equipment list and add in all the items called for for each (radios, GEM, etc.), and then combine all these into one list. Make your check list temporary as you will keep finding things you want to add, or change the order of. I am on about iteration number 6 on my list. It is also wise to ask others, as you did for their lists to supplement yours. Don Quote
Hank Posted June 28, 2010 Report Posted June 28, 2010 I built my own checklist from the POH for my C-model. Then I went looking online for some emergency procedures, since my "Emergency" section is two pages, front and back of a single sheet. Half of one side is dedicated to emergency gear extension, and for in-flight fire it says to Close Cabin Heat. Nothing else, just close the heat vent. . . Good luck with your checklist. The nice thing about making your own is that you can rearrange things so that they make sense to you, especially with the pre-flight, taxiing and before takeoff portions. Then you get to mix in the upgrades installed. Word has a nice booklet format buried in one of the layout menus that will print the pages so that they can be stacked and stapled. I use landscape orientation, booklet format, then laminated them with the sticky kind, not the hot lamination that is hard, and the whole thing lives on my kneeboard. Half a sheet of paper is a good size. Quote
PTK Posted June 28, 2010 Report Posted June 28, 2010 Quote: flight2000 Never heard of an in-flight mag check?? I've only done them on the ground during the ground run (which also gets the prop cycle everytime...force of habit ). Why would you mess with the mags while flying though? Brian Quote
flight2000 Posted June 28, 2010 Report Posted June 28, 2010 Well the piece I'm missing right now is the engine monitor. Haven't had a chance to install one yet. It's on my short list, just not the number one priority right now. Thanks for the explanation. Seems reasonable enough. Brian Quote
rob Posted June 28, 2010 Report Posted June 28, 2010 Add me to the list of "made my own checklist." I did so when I had just gotten my M20C and I found it was an excellent learning experience. I'd recommend doing so to any pilot, especially one trying to get familiar with a new aircraft. Not only will you learn by making the checklist, but you'll also be able to lay it out in a way that you like and that you can easilly recall information from. As far as the how to do it, I used Visio, printed it front and back on card stock and then laminated it with some heavy duty laminate. I made 4 copies and keep them all in the plane. Quote
DonMuncy Posted June 28, 2010 Report Posted June 28, 2010 I print mine on ordinary paper and use a dab of Elmers to atach them back to back. Then take them down to Kinkos/FedEx and laminate them in a pretty heavy laminate. As I recall, a sheet of the laminate is a few dollars. Don Quote
Immelman Posted June 29, 2010 Report Posted June 29, 2010 I highly recommend making your own. When I bought my E I made a similar query on the Mooney mailing list and got a bunch of replies. Between those ideas, and the AFM for my airplane I put together a nice checklist. Two-sided, one pieceof paper, color for emphasis, and laminated it for a whole buck down at office depot. The trouble with the sure check commercial lists is that they will not have things specific to your airplane... for example, electric trim and autopilot; per the AFM supplemements these may have mandatory preflight items. Anyway I'll send you what I worked up via PM. Quote
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