Lood Posted May 14, 2014 Report Posted May 14, 2014 My F sports the MP/fuel flow combination gauge and ever since I bought it, back in 2008, the fuel flow gauge was off. When the engine is shut down, the indicator needle on the fuel flow is not indicating right on "0", but rather "-2" gal/hr. Sadly this fault is also present during flight - the gauge thus always indicates about 2 gal/hr short of the actual consumption. Not a train smash, as I do have a JPI with FF, but I get extremely annoyed by things not working as they should. My question is: can the fuel flow gauge be opened by a qualified person, and the indicator needle be moved and reinstalled in the correct position? I've never seen the inside of this gauge, so I'm not sure whether the needle could just be pulled and adjusted or moved to the correct position? Apart form this, the gauge does function properly and as it should. I would appreciate advice from anyone who might have knowledge of the inner working of a fuel flow gauge. Quote
Marauder Posted May 14, 2014 Report Posted May 14, 2014 Are you talking about this gauge? Mine shows fuel pressure. I didn't know they made a fuel flow gauge. If it is this gauge, fuel actually comes up to this gauge. If it was only off when shut down It might be due to an obstruction that doesn't let all of the pressure out and the needle to rest. Most of these gauges can be serviced. Quote
N201MKTurbo Posted May 14, 2014 Report Posted May 14, 2014 Most instrument shops should be able to repair or overhaul that gage for a few hundred bucks. If you can get the model number of the gage, you can call the shops to see if they have the capability to work on it. The fuel flow gage measures the pressure at the sense port on the flow divider. I've never seen one in a mooney, they usually have a fuel pressure gage. Quote
Marauder Posted May 14, 2014 Report Posted May 14, 2014 The fuel flow gage measures the pressure at the sense port on the flow divider. I've never seen one in a mooney, they usually have a fuel pressure gage. I would be curious to see the gauge he has. I have been in a number of Mooneys and I can't ever recall seeing a fuel flow gauge. Sent using Tapatalk Quote
scottfromiowa Posted May 14, 2014 Report Posted May 14, 2014 My bet is that Op'er meant fuel pressure... Quote
mooniac15u Posted May 14, 2014 Report Posted May 14, 2014 http://mooneyspace.com/topic/11929-wanted-direct-replacement-aerosonic-mapff-instrument-for-1979-m20k-231/ Quote
Marauder Posted May 14, 2014 Report Posted May 14, 2014 http://mooneyspace.com/topic/11929-wanted-direct-replacement-aerosonic-mapff-instrument-for-1979-m20k-231/ There is such a critter! Sent using Tapatalk Quote
carusoam Posted May 14, 2014 Report Posted May 14, 2014 Expect that it is an FP gauge calibrated in GPH. Constant fluid parameters in combination with constant flow geometry allows a pressure transducer to be used as a flow meter. Unfortunately something like a deposit in the tube can lead to an erroneous reading, making calibration challenging. Best regards, -a- Quote
Lood Posted May 17, 2014 Author Report Posted May 17, 2014 Thanks to all for the replies. I would like to emphasize that the gauge is working perfectly well, apart from the indicator needle needing a bit of repositioning. It basically indicates low with the same distance that the needle shows on the picture. IAW, if the needle was set to indicate right on "0" with the engine shut down, it should also give the correct reading with the engine running. I'm not sure whether this gauge was installed afterwards, I bought the plane with it in the panel and I'm rather confident that it is indeed a FF gauge and not FP. I've attached a cell phone pic, so pardon the poor quality. Quote
Guest Posted May 18, 2014 Report Posted May 18, 2014 It looks to me like a gauge more common to a Piper Arrow, not a Mooney. Clarence Quote
carusoam Posted May 19, 2014 Report Posted May 19, 2014 I like the % power references...? Starting the conversation of LOP/ROP. Best regards, -a- Quote
Ned Gravel Posted May 19, 2014 Report Posted May 19, 2014 It looks to me like a gauge more common to a Piper Arrow, not a Mooney. Clarence I remember that one from my old Piper Arrow. Sometimes wish I had one in the Mooney - but dependable. Sent from my iPad Quote
harrispa Posted May 20, 2014 Report Posted May 20, 2014 I could be wrong, but that sure looks like a fuel pressure gauge calibrated to fuel flow Quote
N201MKTurbo Posted May 20, 2014 Report Posted May 20, 2014 I could be wrong, but that sure looks like a fuel pressure gauge calibrated to fuel flow That is what a fuel flow gauge is.... It is a pressure gauge connected to the flow sense port on the flow divider. Calibrated for flow. Quote
Lood Posted May 21, 2014 Author Report Posted May 21, 2014 Thanks guys. However, I just learned that my brand new EDM 900 will fulfill both these functions, so I'll not bother to get this fuel flows' needle fixed. Quote
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