Bravoman Posted February 14, 2014 Report Posted February 14, 2014 I am a brand new Mooney owner having recently purchased a 98 bravo. What a great plane! I have already learned much from reading many posts on this forum. This is my first Mooney, and although I have historically been a piper guy and still own a fixed gear toga, I am thoroughly impressed with all aspects of the Mooney from the looks to the fit and finish to the incredible performance. Anyway, I look forward to being part of this group and sharing information and insight 6 Quote
Hector Posted February 14, 2014 Report Posted February 14, 2014 Welcome aboard! This is great place to learn and contribute as you learn Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD Quote
gjkirsch Posted February 14, 2014 Report Posted February 14, 2014 Welcome to the club. I am on my second Bravo and still think they are the best of the fleet. Of course anyone that is fortunate enough to own a Mooney feels the same about his model as well! Quote
Seth Posted February 14, 2014 Report Posted February 14, 2014 Welcome to MooneySpace and congratulations on your new amazing aircraft. Please post some pictures so we can collectively drool. Fly safe and fly often! -Seth Quote
DAVIDWH Posted February 14, 2014 Report Posted February 14, 2014 Bravo, Bravo! Congratulations on a great plane. Wondering how many "stage names" mooney has accumulated. Off hand, I can think of Bravo Acclaim Ovation, and Encore Have I missed any?? Maybe the next new model will be named applause. 1 Quote
carqwik Posted February 14, 2014 Report Posted February 14, 2014 I never realized the connection in the naming nomenclature.... And you missed: Allegro allegro (əˈleɪɡrəʊ, -ˈlɛɡ-) — adj , — adv 1. (to be performed) quickly, in a brisk lively manner — n , -gros 2. a piece or passage to be performed in this manner [C17: from Italian: cheerful, from Latin alacer brisk, lively] Collins English Dictionary - Complete & Unabridged 10th Edition 2009 © William Collins Sons & Co. Ltd. 1979, 1986 © HarperCollins Quote
FlyDave Posted February 14, 2014 Report Posted February 14, 2014 Bravoman, Congratulations on your acquisition! I moved from a J to a Bravo in December. It's an amazing airplane and I love flying it. Please tell us more about your plane and your transition from the Saratoga. Dave Quote
Danb Posted February 14, 2014 Report Posted February 14, 2014 Great addition I had 2 J's from 1977 and 1988...Now have a "05 Bravo c/n be happier now if fuel still cost .75 oh well if you can't afford the fuel you can't afford the R/M ..women cost a whole lot more tho....... 1 Quote
carusoam Posted February 14, 2014 Report Posted February 14, 2014 Bravo, and welcome aboard! Missed one... Standing O...? The first 310hp Ovations built in the aftermarket. Best regards, -a- Quote
Bravoman Posted February 15, 2014 Author Report Posted February 15, 2014 Thanks all for the warm welcome! One of the many differences transitioning from normally aspirated Piper is managing the turbo charged engine. My plane has the older style JPI(non-color display--the piper has a newer 730 which really is a lot nicer) and I can't even imagine flying one of these birds without 6 cyl monitoring. One of the things I learned here is to lean principally to TIT, which is something obviously not done with NA. With the Mooney I find that this is the best way to find the spot where CHTs are happiest and fuel flow is optimized. Also, one of the big things in my transition is having to even worry about CHTs as I can't get over about 330(hottest cyl)in my piper if I try. I have yet to fly over about 11k, so I don't think I have had the full Bravo experience, but that will change soon. I will probably keep it conservative and try not to exceed 1650 TIT, but assume that with these engines CHTS are the best indication of wthether the engine is being managed correctly. I am trying never to exceed 400 in hottest cyl. I am also finding that at somewhat conservative settings, such as 30/22 the bravo can be halfway economical without sacrificing too much performance. I'll be interested to see if the performance delta is much greater between the lower and higher settings at the higher altitudes, where I know the Bravo was designed to be. Quote
Nathan Peterson Posted February 15, 2014 Report Posted February 15, 2014 Congratulations Sir! In my humble experience, I have found the Mooney to be the most challenging and versatile aircraft… I hope you enjoy your new Bird as much as I do! Nate Quote
FlyDave Posted February 15, 2014 Report Posted February 15, 2014 Thanks all for the warm welcome! One of the many differences transitioning from normally aspirated Piper is managing the turbo charged engine. My plane has the older style JPI(non-color display--the piper has a newer 730 which really is a lot nicer) and I can't even imagine flying one of these birds without 6 cyl monitoring. One of the things I learned here is to lean principally to TIT, which is something obviously not done with NA. With the Mooney I find that this is the best way to find the spot where CHTs are happiest and fuel flow is optimized. Also, one of the big things in my transition is having to even worry about CHTs as I can't get over about 330(hottest cyl)in my piper if I try. I have yet to fly over about 11k, so I don't think I have had the full Bravo experience, but that will change soon. I will probably keep it conservative and try not to exceed 1650 TIT, but assume that with these engines CHTS are the best indication of wthether the engine is being managed correctly. I am trying never to exceed 400 in hottest cyl. I am also finding that at somewhat conservative settings, such as 30/22 the bravo can be halfway economical without sacrificing too much performance. I'll be interested to see if the performance delta is much greater between the lower and higher settings at the higher altitudes, where I know the Bravo was designed to be. I fly my 89 Bravo at essentially 2 power settings: 29/2400, 18.5 GPH, 200 KTAS @ 17,500' 27/2200, 15.5 GPH, 190 KTAS @ 17,500' Take off 2 KTAS per 1,000' lower. I haven't gone higher yet (I'm waiting to fly down to Los Angeles and do that with NotarPilot ) I may experiment with lower power setting for just sight seeing and taking my time so I'll post more settings/performance when I get them. Quote
Awful_Charlie Posted February 15, 2014 Report Posted February 15, 2014 Welcome Bravoman! Like FlyDave, I primarily use only a couple of power settings, but reserve the right to play when time and conditions permit. My 'Standard' cruise is 30"/2200 for 13-14GPH, giving about 170-180 KTAS at FL160-190, or 32"/2400 for headwinds at 15-16GPH. The number of times I seem to have a tailwind and time in hand are sadly few and far between, but just a week or two ago the turbulence was so bad I slowed to 20"/2200 at 10GPH for ~120KIAS - it was down to 75kt ground speed at times, but I really wanted to be close to VA due to the bumps! Quote
AndyFromCB Posted February 18, 2014 Report Posted February 18, 2014 Welcome Bravoman! Like FlyDave, I primarily use only a couple of power settings, but reserve the right to play when time and conditions permit. My 'Standard' cruise is 30"/2200 for 13-14GPH, giving about 170-180 KTAS at FL160-190, or 32"/2400 for headwinds at 15-16GPH. The number of times I seem to have a tailwind and time in hand are sadly few and far between, but just a week or two ago the turbulence was so bad I slowed to 20"/2200 at 10GPH for ~120KIAS - it was down to 75kt ground speed at times, but I really wanted to be close to VA due to the bumps! How do you get 32/2400 at 16gph? 28/2400 is closer to what I do to get that fuel flow. Peak TIT? 1750? Quote
Awful_Charlie Posted February 19, 2014 Report Posted February 19, 2014 That's just LOP and a bit under what the POH gives for 75%. TIT runs at about 1600-1650 for that setting Quote
AndyFromCB Posted February 19, 2014 Report Posted February 19, 2014 That's just LOP and a bit under what the POH gives for 75%. TIT runs at about 1600-1650 for that setting I see, you have the elusive LOP Bravo. I need to tweak with mine. Quote
JohnB Posted October 26, 2014 Report Posted October 26, 2014 Bravo, Bravo! Congratulations on a great plane. Wondering how many "stage names" mooney has accumulated. Off hand, I can think of Bravo Acclaim Ovation, and Encore Have I missed any?? Maybe the next new model will be named applause. That's a great observation David!!! Ok Mooney folks.. I have the name for the NEXT great Mooney..... Ready? Consider...... The Mooney Accolade!!! I think would be perfect in the list of new airplane names, and keep with the same theme of names. Quote
carusoam Posted October 26, 2014 Report Posted October 26, 2014 What is a Standing O, who named that one? Name the lady president that Mooney had while those names were being applied...? Best regards, -a- Quote
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