jrwilson Posted February 5, 2014 Report Posted February 5, 2014 Beautiful 1963 M20C with no expense spared on maintenance. Flies regularly, flies fast and flies straight and hangared near Sacramento, CA. Great paint, glass, tanks and good interior. 4500 TT/1400 SMOH Complete logs. $38,000 Firm. 1 piece windshield, lower cowl enclosure, aileron gap seals, brake cylinder rotation, shoulder harnesses, LASAR steering assembly, LASAR engine mount (removes AD), LASAR gear latch upgrade (low maintenance Johnson bar), alternator conversion, recent fuel/oil lines, new carburetor, recent engine driven pump, boost pump, new gyro, gel sealed battery, skytec starter, recent tail bracket and boot and, balanced prop and new tires... Compressions in upper 70s, 21-23 hours per quart of oil. Dual KX 155s 1 w/ glideslope. Garmin AERA panel mounted, Apollo 360 GPS, JPI 700, KMA 24, KT76, ACK 406 ELT, 4 place built-in intercom, Davtron 903 DVOR, Davtron M605. No corrosion, yearly corrosion-X treatments, SB 208 complied. I do crazy, excessive, some would say bordering on Obsessive compulsive disorder maintenance on this plane. My 6 year old daughter and wife fly in this plane, so I put in the effort and money to make sure everything works. There would be no way to recoup anywhere near what I have put into this plane, nor would I try. The aircraft gets 25 hour oil changes with new oil and air filters despite my mechanic stressing, every time, it is overkill (He says there isn't even any carbon in the filter and jokes about using the oil in his plane, because it is still new). I say oil and filters are cheap but engines are expensive. If the mechanic says a part will need replacing within a few years, I say replace it now. I have the complete logs, so a quick look will show the amount of care I have put into this plane. Heck, I even pre-heat, in California, whenever it gets below 40 degrees and I'm going flying. I know it doesn't need it, but remember that Obsessive compulsive disorder thing? That is what I'm talking about... Damage history: Prior owners had the steering assembly break on landing (Hence LASAR assembly now), nosegear went free castering and they hit a taxiway sign with the right aileron. No wing damage and the aileron was replaced. I think it was just cheaper to get an aileron than re-skin the old one. That is the extent of the damage. Pretty good for a 1963... Take a look, this one is worth it. Selling because we got a second dog so wife says we need a bigger plane, a 201. I didn't argue since I have always wanted a 201. Don't worry about the dogs in the plane, referring back to the OCD, whenever the dog goes into the plane, which is rarely, she has to ride in what is called the "Box of shame," a plastic box so her drool and fur can't get on anything. Seriously. I'm sure I forgot things, so call or PM or email with any questions... John Wilson (916) 505-2240 jrwilson@sacsheriff.com 2 Quote
jrwilson Posted February 5, 2014 Author Report Posted February 5, 2014 Wow, awesome job on the pictures... They are right side up on my computer... I blame the iphone, though it was likely user error. Quote
jrwilson Posted February 5, 2014 Author Report Posted February 5, 2014 For another example of how the plane is maintained...shortly after I bought her (yes I anthropomorphize machines), the generator failed in flight and we got stranded in Red Bluff, CA. Red Bluff sucks (I should know, I grew up there) and generators suck too. So instead of fixing the generator, I had the mechanic upgrade her to alternator. No more problems with generators or batteries or anything. Plus, that was the last time we got stranded, so an awesome dispatch reliability rate (I did just knock on wood). Quote
bnicolette Posted February 5, 2014 Report Posted February 5, 2014 Beautiful looking airplane. Even upside down. Good luck with the sale. You can't go wrong with the 201 and I'm sure the box of shame will be much easier to access with the extra room. I've been having 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th...............thoughts about selling mine. Quote
Marauder Posted February 5, 2014 Report Posted February 5, 2014 I've been having 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th...............thoughts about selling mine. Don't worry big guy, we'll come visit you in Debtor's Prison. You know, the place they will put you when you can't pay your AvGas fuel bills. Sent using Tapatalk 1 Quote
jrwilson Posted February 5, 2014 Author Report Posted February 5, 2014 Beautiful looking airplane. Even upside down. Good luck with the sale. You can't go wrong with the 201 and I'm sure the box of shame will be much easier to access with the extra room. I've been having 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th...............thoughts about selling mine. I'm worried about the 2nd thoughts thing too...201 is going to have some big shoes to fill. Quote
Danb Posted February 5, 2014 Report Posted February 5, 2014 That is a sweet c. Good luck seems like it will please someone... 1 Quote
carusoam Posted February 5, 2014 Report Posted February 5, 2014 Somebody looking for a C is going to appreciate this one... Somebody with an J is going to feel for your pain.... Somebody with an R is going to chuckle, knowing what you're going through... I have no idea what an Acclaim driver would be thinking, I haven't gotten there yet... Good luck with the sale, -a- 1 Quote
Mcstealth Posted February 6, 2014 Report Posted February 6, 2014 Very nice. What do you typically flight plan for you and your family? Bladdes, or no? Fold down back seat? IFR current? David Quote
jrwilson Posted February 6, 2014 Author Report Posted February 6, 2014 I flight plan 140 kts, typically see around 144 ktas, depending on temp, between 7500 and 9500. Has wet wings, w 48 gallons, so my usefull load is a bit higher than most. 1963 has non folding bench in the back. I'm not sure when they started folding seats, I don't know that Cs have them. Yes IFR, although I did my last static/transponder cert as VFR. Quote
47U Posted February 7, 2014 Report Posted February 7, 2014 John, too many questions for this forum... I'll send you an email. Thomas Folkerts Quote
carusoam Posted February 7, 2014 Report Posted February 7, 2014 David's day is coming.... Best regards, Quote
jrwilson Posted February 11, 2014 Author Report Posted February 11, 2014 Lowered price to $45,000 Quote
jrwilson Posted February 18, 2014 Author Report Posted February 18, 2014 Lowered price to $43,500 Quote
carusoam Posted February 19, 2014 Report Posted February 19, 2014 Where does the number need to be today, David? Just instigating, -a- Quote
benpilot Posted February 23, 2014 Report Posted February 23, 2014 It will sell fast for 25-30K :-) Quote
jrwilson Posted February 23, 2014 Author Report Posted February 23, 2014 Well luckily I'm not trying to sell fast, or at that price, give it away. It's been listed for less than a month, so I think giving it a few months to sell is pretty reasonable. Quote
phecksel Posted March 11, 2014 Report Posted March 11, 2014 At $25k, I'll write the check tonight Quote
jrwilson Posted March 17, 2014 Author Report Posted March 17, 2014 There has been a moderate interest, mostly from people who aren't quite ready to buy yet... If the plane doesn't have an offer by the end of March, I'm just going to keep it and do some more upgrades (KT-74 and DME for starters). If you want a solid, well cared for plane, then make an offer. Price is reduced to $38,000 firm. A really ridiculously low price, considering what that would get in the Cessna (172) or Piper (140) world, but prices suck so I guess that is the reality of things. Quote
benpilot Posted April 6, 2014 Report Posted April 6, 2014 At 25K I will pay cold hard cash $100 bills in a nice suitcase. No rubber checks. Quote
benpilot Posted April 6, 2014 Report Posted April 6, 2014 VREF value 1963 - MOONEY MARK 21/RANGER M20 B/C/G $28,681.05 (as configured) Trade-in value will be considerably less due to dealer marketing costs, margins and inventory expenses. Price assumes complete logs, no damage, and all inspections complied. Model Base Retail Serial No. M20C $31,000.00 2297-2622 Airframe Total Time and Engine Time Since Major Overhaul: Note: Numbers in parenthesis are negative values. AFTT: 4500. Effect on valuation=$81.05 at $0.90/hour. SMOH Engine #1: 1400. Effect on valuation=($4,400.00) at $11.00/hour. Quote
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