M016576 Posted December 31, 2013 Report Posted December 31, 2013 If you think about it, we already have Haha! That's valid Quote
donkaye, MCFI Posted December 31, 2013 Report Posted December 31, 2013 $15,000 dollars for a GPS unit with a tenth the computing power of a $500 dollar iPad? Give me a break. No wonder young adults don't want to fly.... We're priced out of it! I love the iPad, but if I'm flying IFR on a challenging day, there's no way I would trade that easy to use $15,000 aviation dedicated and certified GPS for an iPad. 2 Quote
bnicolette Posted December 31, 2013 Report Posted December 31, 2013 100.3 this year in the Mooney. Mike (201ER) you definitely win the grand prize for most interesting flight time in the Mooney this year!!! Way to go bud. Quote
M016576 Posted December 31, 2013 Report Posted December 31, 2013 I love the iPad, but if I'm flying IFR on a challenging day, there's no way I would trade that easy to use $15,000 aviation dedicated and certified GPS for an iPad. My point is that the internal parts of an iPad are more capable than the internal parts of a GTN, cost roughly the same when all the circuits and processors are in trays on a shelf, yet the GTN costs 30 times the price. Why? Many factors, but two we do to ourselves: certification costs and economies of scale. I'd rather have a GTN if I need it too... But the cost is outrageous for "the sum of the parts." Again, that wasn't the point of my post. Quote
Hector Posted December 31, 2013 Report Posted December 31, 2013 Around 90 hours in 2013. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD Quote
kris_adams Posted December 31, 2013 Report Posted December 31, 2013 Around 65 this year. I was out of commission for several months due to a house fire but plan to be over 100 again in 2014. Quote
Skybrd Posted January 1, 2014 Report Posted January 1, 2014 I logged over 180 hours between two planes. I forsee that general aviation is dying due to many reasons. I hope Congress will start investing in our young people with subsidy for on the job training as apprentice (including flight training). This would build up our economy within the United States. Too much hype on college degrees and little help for the working class. There are many foreigners doing flight training at various schools in California but almost nil for young Americans. I would like to see that change and have flight schools filled with our American youth. 2 Quote
jnisley Posted January 1, 2014 Report Posted January 1, 2014 54 total time, all in the Mooney 45 cross country, 33 of which were Angel Flights Work, family and lots of bad weather in June/July kept me from flying as much as I wanted to. Quote
laytonl Posted January 1, 2014 Report Posted January 1, 2014 About 135 hours in the Mooney. A few hours in other planes. Lee Quote
aviatoreb Posted January 1, 2014 Report Posted January 1, 2014 I do not have my books handy but I believe it is roughly 165hours for the year - all but 4 of which were in N10933 and that other 4 in a twin comanche. Quote
aviatoreb Posted January 1, 2014 Report Posted January 1, 2014 ~110 mooney. ~175 F-15. ~100 F-15 simulator hours Ok, Ok, we will grant you that an F15 counts as real flying, but I am not sure I am ready to count the simulator time here in Mooneyspace. I mean the Air Force might think its cool, but com'n dude - this is Mooneyspace! That means wheels up time. :-) Quote
BorealOne Posted January 1, 2014 Report Posted January 1, 2014 230h in my Ovation, a few hours in other planes. Quote
M016576 Posted January 1, 2014 Report Posted January 1, 2014 Ok, Ok, we will grant you that an F15 counts as real flying, but I am not sure I am ready to count the simulator time here in Mooneyspace. I mean the Air Force might think its cool, but com'n dude - this is Mooneyspace! That means wheels up time. :-) I'll give you that the simulator isn't the airplane, but the cockpit is identical, the visuals are straight out of xplane, and when you're IFR anyway, you're not looking outside. Besides, you can shoot all the real IMC ILS's with a healthy jet you want..., it's the simulator where you lose an engine, some HYD pumps and a few control surfaces that prepares you for "the real deal." I can assure you, I see more emergencies in one hour in the simulator, than I do in 500 hours of actual flight. You come out of those simulator sessions sweating. And they make you a better pilot. For those of you that have never attended professional simulator training, I highly recommend it. It's not "you against the computer", there is a CFII driving a training scenario. It is a continuous and ongoing problem of decision making; where the weather is deteriorating while your aircraft is falling apart around you. It's not only an excellent experience where you learn a lot: the training shows you where you make mistakes, how to overcome them and ultimately instill the confidence that you can survive if things do go south. But you're right, the simulator isn't actual flight time! Quote
kerry Posted January 1, 2014 Report Posted January 1, 2014 I would love to try a F15 simulator. My guess would be the F15 simulator time cost 10x more per hour than my Mooney. Quote
aviatoreb Posted January 1, 2014 Report Posted January 1, 2014 I'll give you that the simulator isn't the airplane, but the cockpit is identical, the visuals are straight out of xplane, and when you're IFR anyway, you're not looking outside. Besides, you can shoot all the real IMC ILS's with a healthy jet you want..., it's the simulator where you lose an engine, some HYD pumps and a few control surfaces that prepares you for "the real deal." I can assure you, I see more emergencies in one hour in the simulator, than I do in 500 hours of actual flight. You come out of those simulator sessions sweating. And they make you a better pilot. For those of you that have never attended professional simulator training, I highly recommend it. It's not "you against the computer", there is a CFII driving a training scenario. It is a continuous and ongoing problem of decision making; where the weather is deteriorating while your aircraft is falling apart around you. It's not only an excellent experience where you learn a lot: the training shows you where you make mistakes, how to overcome them and ultimately instill the confidence that you can survive if things do go south. But you're right, the simulator isn't actual flight time! Ok, I'm convinced. I will be right over for some F15 sim time. Quote
aviatoreb Posted January 1, 2014 Report Posted January 1, 2014 Ok, I'm convinced. I will be right over for some F15 sim time. By the way, I have looked casually at some of the sim-companies to see if anyone has a proper M20 simulator. I have found none. Is there a real sim-company for M20 in this country anyone? I don't mean x-plane on my desktop, but I mean a proper full sim with at least wrap around screens, realistic controls in front AND controlled by a wicked CFI to challenge our skills and critique us afterwards? Seems like mostly the sim companies begin with twins and on up through jets, and maybe a Piper Malibu or something like that at a few. Quote
FlyDave Posted January 1, 2014 Report Posted January 1, 2014 I flew 167 hours in 2013: 136 in my 201 * 28 in the Bravo 3 in Jerry's JetProp (Different world) * I contributed ~13 hours of Don Kaye's time to his logbook for 2013 Quote
jlunseth Posted January 1, 2014 Report Posted January 1, 2014 180 hours on the button in 2013. Got my commercial ASEL. Lots of landing practice. The maneuvers are fun, you will learn a lot about your aircraft and how you should fly it. The one place where the FAA commercial training misses the boat IMHO, is long cross country planning with current nav systems. There is definitely not sufficient focus on currently available weather products and long range weather planning, you have to learn that yourself. The focus on dead reckoning navigation is fine if you fly an aircraft that has no instruments, but outmoded for most of our cockpits. The good news is that once you get by it for your first commercial rating, you never have to do it again for any other commercial rating. Quote
M016576 Posted January 1, 2014 Report Posted January 1, 2014 By the way, I have looked casually at some of the sim-companies to see if anyone has a proper M20 simulator. I have found none. Is there a real sim-company for M20 in this country anyone? I don't mean x-plane on my desktop, but I mean a proper full sim with at least wrap around screens, realistic controls in front AND controlled by a wicked CFI to challenge our skills and critique us afterwards? Seems like mostly the sim companies begin with twins and on up through jets, and maybe a Piper Malibu or something like that at a few. That's a good question. I'm sensing a market void! Maybe I can put my post USAF life to good work and develop a military grade simulator facility for GA.... I've got a great workforce for it here, that's for sure, no shortage of skilled instructor pilots! And I can be plenty wicked on the console.... Quote
fantom Posted January 1, 2014 Report Posted January 1, 2014 Some time ago, when Trey was was at Flight Safety, they had an elaborate M20J sim. Unfortunately it was out of commission most of the time. Quote
aviatoreb Posted January 1, 2014 Report Posted January 1, 2014 That's a good question. I'm sensing a market void! Maybe I can put my post USAF life to good work and develop a military grade simulator facility for GA.... I've got a great workforce for it here, that's for sure, no shortage of skilled instructor pilots! I wonder if you and your friends could make a part time job out of such a company? I know it would be in your neck of the woods, so I would only come occasionally when work brings me to the west, but hey, I would go out of my way to drop in sometimes, and I bet some others would too. I wonder how much materials you would need? Some kind of fancy xplane setup, or maybe something could be done to specialize a redbird sim? And I can be plenty wicked on the console.... I guess I would have that coming after those pop quizzes in Calculus I.... Quote
aviatoreb Posted January 1, 2014 Report Posted January 1, 2014 Some time ago, when Trey was was at Flight Safety, they had an elaborate M20J sim. Unfortunately it was out of commission most of the time. Where is that? Is it still operational? Quote
Super Dave Posted January 2, 2014 Report Posted January 2, 2014 ~50 Mooney ~700 spread across BE1900D, EMB120, C550, C560, ERJ135 ~78 Sim. (2 new type ratings and 2 recurrents) This years goal is to have more Mooney time than simulator time. 1 Quote
bonal Posted January 2, 2014 Report Posted January 2, 2014 Around 90 mostly in our 20c some in my 150 to keep it fresh. I've only had the mooney for 8 months. Quote
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