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gsengle Grand Master

gsengle

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Apologies, since I'm not (yet) a Florida Mooney Flyer - but there is a chance I'll become one, and hope this group might have a recommendation for me.

 

There is the possibility that my career might take me and my Ovation to Miami.  It looks like an expensive place to keep a plane!  And I'm used to keeping it hangared.  I don't mind driving a little ways, but what are the good / reasonable GA airports in the Miami area where I'd have hope of being able to afford a hangar?  Does such a thing exist?

 

thanks in advance!

Greg

co2bruce Experienced

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Affordable ??? South Florida ??  I'm based in Pompano, which I would think would be cheaper than anywhere in Miami and a single hanger is in the $650.00 / month range. That being said, I do keep mine hangered.

Dale Community Regular

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I believe there are some hangars available at North Perry (KHWO).  I understood that in addition to the hangars that are presently there now, the County intends to put in some new hangars in the future.  North Perry is a nice airport, a really great group of pilots and a few Mooneys based there.  Hangars are going to run around $600 to $700 and there are hangars on the south and north sides of the airport.  Easy access from the Turnpike which is just a mile east of the airport.  As for maintenance issues I use Premier because I trust Premier as they work on a lot of Mooneys, not just 1 or 2.  If I have to fly it, I have to trust the people working on my Plane and I trust Premier.  They are not going to be the cheapest but they do know what they are doing on a Mooney and since I fly my family around a lot, that means a lot to me.  Good luck.

fantom Grand Master

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Paradise ain't cheap, Parker ;) Lots of reasonable Mooney savvy shops down here. PJ at Avon Park both owned a Mooney and was working on them long before Premier was Premier :)

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fantom Grand Master

fantom

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....and the "Boca Airport" is special ;)

 

Why should taxpayers underwrite wealthy private jet owners? Let them land at Ft. Lauderdale Exec, about 10 miles south, and drive just like they did until the towere went up at Boca, a single runway field, just afew years ago.

 

Federal cuts are scheduled to land at Boca Raton Airport on April 7

By Anne Geggis, Sun Sentinel

March 14, 2013

 
Boca Raton—

 

Federal cuts are scheduled to land at Boca Raton Airport on April 7 — taking out federal funding for the air traffic control tower there — so the airport community met Wednesday to direct their best argument against that.

 
  • Wednesday's meeting brought together hotel managers, aviation business people and area corporate players, expressing their dismay that the $650,000 the Federal Aviation Administration pays for six staffers in Boca's control tower is most definitely on the list for cuts to be made.

 

"For my corporation, a large part of our decision to move to Boca from West Palm Beach was based on that tower being there," said Paul Loughrey, who works for Office Depot.

 

About 30 people who came to the meeting Wednesday discussed some of the downer effects the cuts could have: decreased safety, fewer hotel rooms rented, fewer airport workers. Airport Manager Ken Day urged them to email and call both of Florida's senators and the state's U.S. representatives and then urge others to do the same.

 

"It's politics and we all know that," Day said.

 

The money paid for contracted staff in the tower is part of the sequestration cuts that President Obama signed into law. Boca is one of 173 contracted air control towers most likely to lose federally funded staff. North Perry and Opa-locka airports are also on that same list.

 

Day said there's a glimmer of hope on the horizon that the cuts won't come to pass in the proposal that U.S. Sen. Jim Moran, R-Kan., has brought forward. But administratively, the picture is looking like more than a near-miss.

 

Boca's air traffic has grown to 51,000 operations annually. Many jets that currently land at Boca Raton Airport would likely pass it by without staff to guide them in, because their corporate charters prohibit them from landing at uncontrolled airports. Airport Authority Chairman Frank Feiler likened it to trying to find a parking space during Christmas season at Town Center.

"It's like doing that with no traffic lights and vehicles traveling at 130 to 180 mph," he said.

 

Troy McClellan, president and CEO of Greater Boca Raton Chamber of Commerce, said that he will likely get some face time with Florida's Republican Sen. Marco Rubio this weekend.

 

"What's the insight that's going to save the day?" he asked, noting that every one of the airports on the list could make the argument about the economics of not having staff in the control tower. "Is there anything that's going to hit a hot button?"

Richard Peck, director of operations for Universal Jet Aviation, said that his experience working for the FAA gave him some insight.

"The last thing the government cares about is profit and loss," he said. "You need to come up with a scenario with mid airs (collisions)."

flyboy0681 Grand Master

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Why should taxpayers underwrite wealthy private jet owners? Let them land at Ft. Lauderdale Exec, about 10 miles south, and drive just like they did until the towere went up at Boca, a single runway field, just afew years ago.

 

 

I agree! Maybe if the FBO's didn't serve the kerosine guzzlers they would have to resort to charging competitive prices for 100LL, instead of over $7.00/gal.

 

But then again, I wouldn't enjoy the view of watching them land 100 feet in front of the hangar door.

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Piloto Grand Master

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I have a hurricane proof T-hangar at KFXE. There are a lot facilities and amenities at this airport incluidng Premier Aviation, Banyan Pilot Store, Customs and others. At $710/month there is no waiting list.

 

José 

fantom Grand Master

fantom

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I guess the long and short of it is that down here it's simply the law of supply and demand. Lots of demand, very little supply.

 

Never that simple....

 

Charge what the traffic will bear, restrict supply, discourage building, and stick it to you rich pilots.

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Hank Grand Master

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Never that simple....

 

Charge what the traffic will bear, restrict supply, discourage building, and stick it to you rich pilots.

 

Like you say, never that simple for your theory, either.

 

We've looked at building more hangars here where things are less horribly expensive. A dozen T-hangars can be had for ~$350 per month per hangar for 20 years, if you don't have to pay interest and don't want to make a profit by renting them out. That does not include paying for the land, which belongs to the county. We decided at that price that our waiting list would dwindle from the current 25+ down to about 3, so no construction. Our existing twelve T-hangars have had exactly one change in lessee since I started lessons in 2006.

FloridaMan Grand Master

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You know...I would bet there are a lot of open summertime hangars left available by the snowbirds. It might be something worth asking about. I can't stand the thought of my plane being left for extended periods to the column of nightly humidity that rains down in FL, but being tied down in the wintertime is certainly preferable to the summer months. 

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jbgood11X Collaborator

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On a semi-related note...I have a hanger available in St. Augustine on a temp basis for the summer months from Mid March until mid August if anyone is interested. You can email or call me for additional details.

I might be interested   john   815 210 2675

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