Is this the Certificate of Airworthiness?

[GoDemonDeacons]

Is this the original CoA? If so how would you go about displaying it?

[PT20J]

No. That's just at attestment to the effect that an airworthiness certificate was issued. The certificate looks like this and should be attached to the airframe in a visible location.

If yours is missing you need to contact your FSDO to get it replaced.

[GoDemonDeacons]

2 minutes ago, PT20J said:

No. That's just at attestment to the effect that an airworthiness certificate was issued. The certificate looks like this and should be attached to the airframe in a visible location.

If yours is missing you need to contact your FSDO to get it replaced.

Thanks

[Fly Boomer]

27 minutes ago, GoDemonDeacons said:

Is this the original CoA? If so how would you go about displaying it?

https://awc.faa.gov/AWCExternalApplicant/Help/Content/User Procedures/My AWC/ExchangeCertificate.htm

[GoDemonDeacons]

1 hour ago, Fly Boomer said:

https://awc.faa.gov/AWCExternalApplicant/Help/Content/User Procedures/My AWC/ExchangeCertificate.htm

How will the process go with the FSDO? It appears that it has never had a 8100-2 and this is all it’s ever had. 

[EricJ]

17 minutes ago, GoDemonDeacons said:

How will the process go with the FSDO? It appears that it has never had a 8100-2 and this is all it’s ever had. 

It would have failed a number of annual inspections or other inspections if the actual airworthiness certificate was missing, which is *not* that logbook entry.    If there was ever a checkride done in that airplane the DPE would likely have checked that the AWC was there as well.    So it is highly unlikely that it has been missing for a long time.

[GoDemonDeacons]

10 minutes ago, EricJ said:

It would have failed a number of annual inspections or other inspections if the actual airworthiness certificate was missing, which is *not* that logbook entry.    If there was ever a checkride done in that airplane the DPE would likely have checked that the AWC was there as well.    So it is highly unlikely that it has been missing for a long time.

Ok thank ya very much. 

[Jim Peace]

My airworthiness certificate is kind of thrashed....how can I get a new one issued?

[Rwsavory]

13 minutes ago, Jim Peace said:

My airworthiness certificate is kind of thrashed....how can I get a new one issued?

Contact your FSDO. But if it’s still legible I wouldn’t bother. 

[Fly Boomer]

1 hour ago, GoDemonDeacons said:

How will the process go with the FSDO? It appears that it has never had a 8100-2 and this is all it’s ever had. 

I believe the website explains how to exchange what you have for a "modern" certificate.

[DCarlton]

3 hours ago, PT20J said:

No. That's just at attestment to the effect that an airworthiness certificate was issued. The certificate looks like this and should be attached to the airframe in a visible location.

If yours is missing you need to contact your FSDO to get it replaced.

Any idea if there are rules that say the original has to be displayed in the airplane?  Wondering if a fresh copy would be good enough; maybe something on card stock.  I just moved mine to a new interior and it's not in the best shape after 5+ decades.  

[A64Pilot]

I think in 1946 DAMI’s (predecessors to IA’s) inspected the aircraft and issued an Airworthiness Certificate yearly, then in 1958 Maybe when the CAA became the FAA our “Modern” permanent Airworthiness Certificates became a thing.

Prior to 46 I think periodic inspections were just recorded in the logbook and a CAA inspector issued a new Airworthiness cert yearly? Somehow I think periodic inspections were sort of accepted to be yearly, but it wasn’t until 1966 that the FAR was changed to require Annuals. 

I’m not positive of any of this but think it’s basically correct, some details may be wrong or missing.

[A64Pilot]

7 minutes ago, DCarlton said:

Any idea if there are rules that say the original has to be displayed in the airplane?  Wondering if a fresh copy would be good enough; maybe something on card stock.  I just moved mine to a new interior and it's not in the best shape after 5+ decades.  

Yes Part 91 I think 91.203 maybe.

To me interestingly part 91 says or seems to indicate the original must be displayed, nothing about a legible copy.

‘But if your an Ag plane part 137 says you can carry a copy as long as the original is on file at the office

Edited Tuesday at 11:39 PM by A64Pilot

[0TreeLemur]

@GoDemonDeacons I just went through this process due to N-number change.  E-mail your local FSDO.   They will get back to you.  The person that contacted me sent me a very detailed list explaining what I needed to you.  In short, you must upload a scanned letter, signed by the owner(s) of the aircraft explaining why you need an A/W Cert.   Valid reasons include lost, damaged, N-number change.   They might want you to upload some documentation like that scan from your log book.  Here's an excerpt from what they sent me:

First step is to go to the following website and complete your application for replacement Airworthiness Certificate: https://awc.faa.gov/AWCExternalApplicant/Splash/Index

Please note, registration will require setting up a two-factor authenticate (2FA) credential.

1. Click 'Agree,' button at the bottom left of the login page.

2. Click 'New User Sign-Up,' IF you are not already registered for 2FA in MyAccess

3. Click 'Login,' at top of this page AFTER setting up 2FA credential

4. Complete Replacement Certificate application process in AWC, the ‘Help,’ button at the upper right-hand side of page is helpful if you have questions completing your application

 

You will also need the following documents to upload to your application in AWC:

1. Signed statement detailing nature of need for replacement certificate, SIGN the statement before upload.  If lost, make sure this is detailed in said statement.  Note: Completed FAA Form 8130-6 IS NOT required for a replacement Airworthiness Certificate.

2. etc.
   
    

[kortopates]

Any idea if there are rules that say the original has to be displayed in the airplane?  Wondering if a fresh copy would be good enough; maybe something on card stock.  I just moved mine to a new interior and it's not in the best shape after 5+ decades.  

Copies are not legal, you have to have the original in the aircraft to be airworthy.

Ironically though, if you get new one though it will be in the form of PDF and every copy you print will be legal - just don’t lose the file. But this a new format different from your old original one.


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[0TreeLemur]

6 minutes ago, kortopates said:

Ironically though, if you get new one though it will be in the form of PDF and every copy you print will be legal - just don’t lose the file. But this a new format different from your old original one.
 

That's right, the new one I just received was a digitally signed pdf.

[Pinecone]

I replaced mine due to wear and tear.  I went to the site and did what it seemed to say to do, but no response.  I called and left a message and after a bit, got a call back.  FSDO person walked me through the process.  IT IS NOT CLEAR.  They even admit that.

But the only way to get one now, is via the online process.

If yours is missing, your aircraft is not airworthy until it is replaced.   In my plane, there was a pouch on the panel at the back of the baggage compartment in the original interior for the AWC, Registration, and Radio Station License (no longer needed unless flying out of the US).

AWC must be displayed in clear view of anyone boarding the aircraft (I think that is the wording).  Next time you board an airliner, it will be above the FA control panel on the left of the forward boarding door.

[N201MKTurbo]

Everything at the FAA is online now. If you call your inspector on the phone he will tell you to submit it online. They hate it as much as we do, maybe worse.

[Pinecone]

Especially since they end up having to do more work in walking people through the arcane website.