How Much Cross Wind to Run Out of Rudder?

[Greg Ellis]

45 minutes ago, Hank said:

The only appearance of "crosswind" in the Owners Manual for my 1970 C, on Page 1-3:

So I have to roll my own procedure(s) for crosswind landings.

You are a test pilot for every crosswind landing in your airplane....

[aviatoreb]

On 3/24/2025 at 12:52 PM, N201MKTurbo said:

I haven’t flown in strong winds on a daily basis since I left Denver in ‘89. I seem to recall it is around 35 KTS where you run out of rudder. 

Wow - you flew in 35kts at 90 degrees?

[N201MKTurbo]

50 minutes ago, aviatoreb said:

Wow - you flew in 35kts at 90 degrees?

More than that sometimes. I was flying almost every day doing service calls for Raytheon Data Systems. I was flying about 450 hours a year back then out of Denver. My territory was Colorado, Nebraska, Wyoming and South Dakota. It can get pretty windy there. Besides I was young and bulletproof. 
 

I’ve told the story before, once I landed at Laramie Wyoming and the east-west runway was closed. The wind was 70 KTS out of the west and I had to land on the north-south runway. A Beech 1900 airliner just aborted its third takeoff attempt. I landed on 19 and the captain comes on the radio and compliments me. He made his next takeoff. When the wind is that strong you can land with zero ground speed. I landed on the downwind edge of the runway pointed at the upwind edge of the runway. Landing wasn’t that hard actually. Taxiing was very treacherous. When I got to the FBO I couldn’t throttle back or the plane would get airborne and was skipping backwards. I called the FBO and they came out and tied it down with the engine holding it in place, then I shut it down. See young and bulletproof above.

If you want to see some of the equipment I used to service, watch the opening scene of the Movie Airplane. It is clearly visible with the Raytheon logo in plain sight.

[aviatoreb]

6 hours ago, N201MKTurbo said:

More than that sometimes. I was flying almost every day doing service calls for Raytheon Data Systems. I was flying about 450 hours a year back then out of Denver. My territory was Colorado, Nebraska, Wyoming and South Dakota. It can get pretty windy there. Besides I was young and bulletproof. 
 

I’ve told the story before, once I landed at Laramie Wyoming and the east-west runway was closed. The wind was 70 KTS out of the west and I had to land on the north-south runway. A Beech 1900 airliner just aborted its third takeoff attempt. I landed on 19 and the captain comes on the radio and compliments me. He made his next takeoff. When the wind is that strong you can land with zero ground speed. I landed on the downwind edge of the runway pointed at the upwind edge of the runway. Landing wasn’t that hard actually. Taxiing was very treacherous. When I got to the FBO I couldn’t throttle back or the plane would get airborne and was skipping backwards. I called the FBO and they came out and tied it down with the engine holding it in place, then I shut it down. See young and bulletproof above.

If you want to see some of the equipment I used to service, watch the opening scene of the Movie Airplane. It is clearly visible with the Raytheon logo in plain sight.

That's quite a story!

Ever seen this gag picture?