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I am not even sure you could call that scud running!


What I want to know is what happened to the L39, and where was he about that time?  Did he bail from the formation and take the safer path?


RFB


 

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My guess: the L-39 pilot was experienced enough to break off, climb and file (illegal, but safer) or reverse course to VMC. 


I wander what kind of fuel flows the L-39 has at such an altitude, and at our speads?

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We posted that on the Piper forum as well.  Funny how quickly that kind of thing makes its way around the web. The Piper forum seems to be a little more rowdy than MooneySpace so those choice words that Buster is thinking actually got expressed over there!

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I don't think the passengers had a good grasp of just how close they came to dying.  Rather than laughing about it, they should be kicking the pilots ass.  I know if I'd been in the back of that thing, I'd have to punch him right in the nose several times after touchdown.

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I felt bad for the young guy facing the camera towards the end of the video, he didn't have a clue that he was about 5' away from a fiery death. As pilots we have a HUGE responsibility to our passengers and I take it very seriously. The ASF program talks about the "chain of events" that leads to an accident. The pilot in the video had many "links" leading up to the point where he scraped the side of the mountain with his wing tip. IMO he should have stayed on the ground that day. Of course this is just armchair piloting and it is always easy to point out fault in others while sitting in front of my computer.... Fly safe gentlemen.

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I was wandering the sane thing about the FAA looking into this...it would not be too hard to find the guy. The flight obviously started at Van Nuys airport and the Bonaza tail starts with N65. They guy that posted it gave the date of the flight last week...


I am sure it would not take long for someone to find the plane's owner.

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George, very well articulated . I agree, this pilot's ticket deserves to be pulled not only to preserve his life and the lives of his passengers. But also to preserve our future in aviation.

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I see AV Web picked up the video and published it in their morning update today (Monday). I wouldn't want to be that pilot for and number of reasons.

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Maybe someone can explain this a bit more in depth to me. I am still learning to fly and have only 25 hours, but hope to own a Mooney in the near future.


Pilot took off in VFR, nothing really disturbing about this. Flew for a short time and ran into IFR conditions. I assume this scenario happens somewhat often and he just seems to have gotten caught at it? My question is,  it is likely that the pilot saw those conditions and made a decision to keep going? Or is it possible that flying along, the conditions just deteriorated very very quickly around him and he essentially found himself in IFR?  On a more general note, if not in this exact situation, can/does it happen that you do not decide to fly into IFR, but find yourself in it..   Another story I read about a new pilot with 55 hours took off in VFR conditions and a short time later, flew into what he described as a wall of clouds. This was at night and he apparently did not see the clouds.


Comments on this would be appreciated, with the focus on specifics of what could and should have been done differently. Thanks.


Dan

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The really scary part wasn't that he accidently got into IMC it's the fact that he did it with TALL mountains all around him. Inadvertant IMC is one thing in the flat lands when all you need to worry about is keeping the plane right side up and the wings level, hit the A/P and compose yourself. When you mix those scary little bushes that pop out of the clouds on your wingtip it's a whole new ballgame. I agree with Jim about the VFR minimums. Just because it's legal does not mean it is safe.

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