docket Posted August 3, 2011 Report Posted August 3, 2011 One of you guys or girls in the know may have an idea where I can get the rubber strap with two holes that holds the fuel cap to the tank neck. Mine turned hard and the ends have cracked. I figure that an MSC may have it but I was hoping to click and buy it on the web somewhere. Anyone have an idea? Quote
MooneyMitch Posted August 3, 2011 Report Posted August 3, 2011 I need one myself Eric. Hope something turns up. Quote
carusoam Posted August 3, 2011 Report Posted August 3, 2011 Make that three of us. I need one but would take two..... Quote
Hank Posted August 4, 2011 Report Posted August 4, 2011 There's something that holds your fuel cap on? Once I left the lever and turn it, I can carry the cap into the FBO if I wanted to . . . I usually just set it carefully on the wing, upside down, to remind me to put it back when I'm done. 1 Quote
carusoam Posted August 4, 2011 Report Posted August 4, 2011 Hank, Yours should have the indication that a nice segmented chain used to be there.... Best regards, -a- Quote
fantom Posted August 4, 2011 Report Posted August 4, 2011 Many (most?) of those chains have been removed. 1 Quote
Wistarmo Posted August 4, 2011 Report Posted August 4, 2011 There was an AD (Docket 96-CE-51-AD, Amendment 39-10251, AD 97-26-08) which required removal of those rubber lanyards. The document is here: http://rgl.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Guidance_Library%5CrgAD.nsf/0/3663F2D3749FE48286256A8F006C5ED6?OpenDocument Quote
MooneyMitch Posted August 4, 2011 Report Posted August 4, 2011 Thank you for the lanyard information. According to SB-259, it is not applicable to the R models. With that said, maybe there are furhter SB's on the subject that do apply to the R. Maybe what's good for the goose is good for the gander! Thanks again for bringing this up. Quote
docket Posted August 4, 2011 Author Report Posted August 4, 2011 Paul Beck at WeepNoMore says he located some and will send me a pair. You may want to email him since he said he had six (I got the first two). Eric Quote
carusoam Posted August 4, 2011 Report Posted August 4, 2011 I believe the problem with the chain.... It was a static electric delivery device right to the fuel source. If there was a build up on you, you could transfer it deep into the tank throat by touching the connected cap The M20R changed the game by using the polymer lanyard. Good idea to ground yourself and the airplane prior to fueling. Don't drag your feet on the red carpet that is always laid out for us mooney drivers... Best regards, -a- Quote
MooneyMitch Posted August 4, 2011 Report Posted August 4, 2011 "The M20R changed the game by using the polymer lanyard." Well, SB-259 does say "nylon type" lanyard. Let's see what Stacy has to say for us on this. I am curious. Quote
carusoam Posted August 4, 2011 Report Posted August 4, 2011 Just a guess, but the material on mine is not as rigid as nylon typically is. Quote
MooneyMitch Posted August 4, 2011 Report Posted August 4, 2011 Sounds good to me. It would make sense that if the "nylon" types were removed from the F,J and L models and lanyards appeared on our R models, that the material used had been changed to a non-threatening type. Let's see how this plays out. I would like to have both caps tied to the tank in case one tried to escape over the wing during fueling. I do use a cool fuel mat but that doesn't guarantee the cap won't go sailing past that. Quote
Wistarmo Posted August 4, 2011 Report Posted August 4, 2011 If you go and read the Airworthiness Directive at the above website, the A.D was issued because the lanyard trapped the fuel float giving false fuel information which contributed to a fuel starvation accident. The FAA determined that this one incident was enough to require issuance of the A.D. There was no mention of a static electricity problem. Quote
danb35 Posted August 4, 2011 Report Posted August 4, 2011 Yes, and the AD was for the nylon-type lanyard--chains aren't covered. 1 Quote
MooneyMitch Posted August 5, 2011 Report Posted August 5, 2011 Ok, here's the reply from Stacey at Mooney. "The reason the lanyards were removed from the M20F,L,J&, K was because there were a couple of reports that the fuel sender had got caught in the lanyards. The M20M,R,S & TN have the lanyards. The fuel sender on these models are further outboard and away from the lanyards. The p/n of the lanyard is 452-16-6 and can be purchased thru any Service Center. We have them in stock." Thank you Stacey. 1 Quote
fantom Posted August 8, 2011 Report Posted August 8, 2011 http://www.mooney.com/images/pdfs/sb-pdf/sbm20-259.pdf Here is the Service Bulletin, M20-259 which applies the the F, J and L models. 1 Quote
M20S Driver Posted February 26, 2014 Report Posted February 26, 2014 I just bought a couple of shaw aero lanyards for my Eagle. What is the procedure to install them? They seem not to stretch much at room temperature. There is nothing in the maintenance manual on the installation. Masoud Update: They will stretch if heated up in near-boiling water per MSC Top Gun. 1 Quote
carusoam Posted February 27, 2014 Report Posted February 27, 2014 What was the price of the strap? I'm going to need one or two... Best regards, -a- Quote
M20S Driver Posted February 27, 2014 Report Posted February 27, 2014 What was the price of the strap? I'm going to need one or two... Best regards, -a- $44.50 each plus shipping. 1 Quote
rbridges Posted February 27, 2014 Report Posted February 27, 2014 you guys are crazy. those straps will take away from your useful load. 3 Quote
M20S Driver Posted February 28, 2014 Report Posted February 28, 2014 I want a pic please N77GB@MSN.COM Here is a pic. Quote
carusoam Posted February 28, 2014 Report Posted February 28, 2014 GB, They need to be made of a more fuel resistant material.... Like a stainless cord or chain... They get embrittled and fail with a fracture. Consider using the modern O-ring polymers...??? Best regards, -a- Quote
DonMuncy Posted February 28, 2014 Report Posted February 28, 2014 $44.50 for that? Unbelieveable! 1 Quote
RJBrown Posted February 28, 2014 Report Posted February 28, 2014 $44.50 for that? Unbelieveable! And in a nutshell that is what is wrong with general aviation today a 10 cent part for $44.50!!!! Quote
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