M20R Landing Distance

[Z06-Acclaim]

I am going to be purchasing an M20R and was wondering about Landing Distances.  There is a nearby airport with a 2500 ft runway that has a hanger I can rent.  I went ahead and reserved it as it was the last one available. The runway is in very good condition with clean approaches on both ends.

I'm wondering what realistic landing distances are in these planes and what some of you use for approach speeds and configurations in the M20R?

Thanks in advance for any advice you can offer.

Darren

 

 

 

[Parker_Woodruff]

Check the performance charts before you go (or arrive), but my guess is you should be fine.  Use max performance technique.  Definitely have your Vx number in mind at all times and nail your approach speed. Don't delay on a go-around decision if it is warranted.

I flew my M20J semi-heavy in and out of a 2000' strip without hassle on a hot Texas summer day.  You can't use heavy braking on that surface at F50 either unless you want to tear up tires.

Simulate having a 2500' surface first in a longer environment first.  Make sure you're getting down and stopped reasonably short of 2500' in landing distance as calculated by runway signs subtracted from runway length information.

[Parker_Woodruff]

Forgot to mention that you'll get less competition (only a couple less companies) for your insurance coverage due to the home airport.  A few insurance companies like to see appox 3000' or so for a heavier Mooney.

You should still be able to get coverage though...just from a slightly slimmer market selection.

[Piloto]

At medium load (half fuel) with an approach speed of 70kts no headwind, crossing the threshold no higher than 30ft you are looking at about 2200 feet with no hard braking. Approach speed is very important since the plane will have a tendency to float on the flare for anything higher than 70kts. During crosswinds conditions it will require a longer run. Be prepared for increased tire wear. I would recommend to practice your landings on a longer runway before trying the 2500ft runway.

José    

[Z06-Acclaim]

Thanks for the advice.  I'm going to bring the plane home and I'll most likely keep in Leesburg for the first month or so.  I'll make sure I get proficient before bringing it over to the other airport.  If you felt it was a no - go, I would just foget the idea and let the hanger go but based on this I'll hang onto it for a month or so and see how comfortable I get with shorter distances.  The have plans to extend the runway to 2900 within the next year so hopefully I won't have to deal with it too long.

 

 

[N513ZM]

Quote: Z06-Acclaim

I am going to be purchasing an M20R and was wondering about Landing Distances.  There is a nearby airport with a 2500 ft runway that has a hanger I can rent.  I went ahead and reserved it as it was the last one available. The runway is in very good condition with clean approaches on both ends.

I'm wondering what realistic landing distances are in these planes and what some of you use for approach speeds and configurations in the M20R?

Thanks in advance for any advice you can offer.

Darren

 

 

 

[Z06-Acclaim]

3 Blade!  Thanks for the encouragement!

[fantom]

Mike is quite right. I wouldn't try it with a two blade prop, but with a 3 blade Top Prop both take off and landing sholdn't cause any increased heart rate or panic braking.

Good luck with your new baby. Looking forward to meeting you at a Florida Mooney luncheon soon.

[Parker_Woodruff]

Quote: N513ZM

3 blade Top Prop or 2 blade original? with the 3 blader no big deal, with the 2 blader fuhgeddaboutit!

70 KIAS across the fence

N513ZM 2000 M20R Top Prop

[jlunseth]

So, what does that say about increased drag in the three blade?

[carusoam]

Sharing some actual M20R experience....(PP-IR)

I have used the runway at Freehold, NY with my M20R (once).

Runway dimensions 2,275 X 22.

http://map.aeroplanner.com/mapping/chart/aptrpt.cfm?a=7&id=1I5&tab=runways

From an engineering point of view, the airplane did just fine when everything was working properly, and the proper pre-flight steps (including performance calculations) were performed.  Minding your airspeed on landing is critical.

On take-off, The M20R ('94) used most of the runway and would not have been able to stop on the remaining runway if a problem occured at, or any where near, Vrotation.  Along with weight, balance, and density altitude....Make sure full power and full RPM are available at the beginning of each take-off run.

What is at the end of your 2,500' runway?

My home drome is 3,000' long with extra grassy space and a cornfield at the end.  There is much more comfort in having the extra space.  If you are not off the ground by the 1/2 or you have not landed on the first 1/3rd, you have time and space to do something about it....

The Ovation is a wonderful bird, given alternatives of longer runways, some runways may be better left for cubs, aeroncas, champions and other things that can come and go in 300 feet or less....

Just say'n, YMMV.....

Best regards,

-a-

[Parker_Woodruff]

Quote: jlunseth

So, what does that say about increased drag in the three blade?

[Z06-Acclaim]

Quote: carusoam

What is at the end of your 2,500' runway?

 

My home drome is 3,000' long with extra grassy space and a cornfield at the end.  There is much more comfort in having the extra space.  If you are not off the ground by the 1/2 or you have not landed on the first 1/3rd, you have time and space to do something about it....

The runway ends allow for a little extra room, at least 500 feet on each end is just grass.  After that a nice field on one end and a small lake on the other?  I'm going to keep it at an airport with a larger runway for the first month or so and get used to it before bringing it in to the smaller airport.  I'll report back and let you know if I decide to make it my home or not.  

 

 

 

[Z06-Acclaim]

Quote: fantom

Good luck with your new baby. Looking forward to meeting you at a Florida Mooney luncheon soon.