DaV8or Posted October 20, 2016 Report Posted October 20, 2016 11 hours ago, Hank said: We have three vehicles: roadster, truck, sedan. Covers the bases for us. The one plane cost more than all three, but it does the job well. Go Mooney! Yep. I'm also a believer in the right tool for the job and have multiple vehicles for multiple missions. Quote
Bob_Belville Posted October 20, 2016 Report Posted October 20, 2016 12 hours ago, Hank said: We have three vehicles: roadster, truck, sedan. Covers the bases for us. The one plane cost more than all three, but it does the job well. Go Mooney! Ditto. Newish 300C: '04 Crossfire - <3000 miles per year, '98 Dakota ~1500 m/y . (All RWD.) Quote
Mark89114 Posted October 20, 2016 Report Posted October 20, 2016 21 hours ago, kerry said: You can get a 1999 Porsche 996 for 10K. Kind of a hidden treasure. WRX's are pricey. They hold their value well for obvious reasons. I agree its impossible to compare the performance of an airplane to a car. I will say the Mooney is a dog compared to an RV-7 in performance. You can't even spin a Mooney, but I guess its how you define performance. The RV-7 can be considered a dog as a stable IFR, cross country airplane that you can take your family with on vacation. That's why a person needs to practical airplanes just like he or she needs two practical cars. A Porsche and a minivan. Wow we are up to buying two airplanes? CB club out the window on that. 1 Quote
DaV8or Posted October 20, 2016 Report Posted October 20, 2016 2 hours ago, Mark89114 said: Wow we are up to buying two airplanes? CB club out the window on that. Isn't that the point of being a cheap bastard? To enable you to buy two planes? 4 Quote
carusoam Posted October 20, 2016 Report Posted October 20, 2016 Watch what a CB drives so he can spend what's left on planes... Best regards, -a- 1 Quote
gsxrpilot Posted October 20, 2016 Report Posted October 20, 2016 4 hours ago, carusoam said: Watch what a CB drives so he can spend what's left on planes... Agree with that. I only pay cash therefore to fly an M20K 252, I drive a pretty rough Toyota Tacoma 2006, 170K miles. 2 Quote
MyNameIsNobody Posted October 20, 2016 Report Posted October 20, 2016 15 hours ago, DaV8or said: I doubt it has anything to do with Mooneys in particular. I think it has more to do with people that want an airplane to travel distances. I bet Bonanza, C-210, Commander, Malibu, etc owners also have similar stories of Porsches and european sports cars. A Mooney most certainly does not handle like a Porsche. Anybody who thinks it does has either never flown a plane that has light, snappy handling, or has never driven a Porsche. Jeez Dave. The comparison was to a VW. I stated that the Mooney is not slow...like a vintage air cooled 911. The Mooney has a tight back seat and a sexy shape...like a vintage 911. I didn't say it handles like a Porsche. My thoughts are that it resembles a Porsche MUCH MORE than a Bug. I have ZERO problem with how my E "handles". It is predictable and simple to operate...like a vintage Porsche. In the air less is more to me. On the highway around "others" I will take ABS, and all the other various "S's" that a modern Porsche offers...including speed. 2 Quote
cnoe Posted October 20, 2016 Report Posted October 20, 2016 3 hours ago, gsxrpilot said: Agree with that. I only pay cash therefore to fly an M20K 252, I drive a pretty rough Toyota Tacoma 2006, 170K miles. You're preaching to the choir brother. I'm still driving my Matador in order to make the payments on my Mooney. On the other hand, my lovely wife deserves special consideration so I stepped it up and got her into a nice Maverick GT! 3 Quote
xcrmckenna Posted October 21, 2016 Report Posted October 21, 2016 I have a Sierra HD with around 900lbft if torque. Where does that put me? Sent from my XT1254 using TapatalkWe drive pretty much the complete opposite of a vw bug and a 911.... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 3 Quote
DaV8or Posted October 24, 2016 Report Posted October 24, 2016 3 hours ago, MyNameIsNobody said: Not a bug. Wow!! That bug does loops! That is impressive!! 1 Quote
Marcopolo Posted October 25, 2016 Report Posted October 25, 2016 8 hours ago, DaV8or said: Wow!! That bug does loops! That is impressive!! And so does that Mooney...so they do drive/fly like a Porsche! 1 Quote
Skates97 Posted October 25, 2016 Report Posted October 25, 2016 My 2002 330i just ticked over 210k miles. I'll drive it until it leaves me on the side of the road. Still runs and looks good. 2 Quote
Marcopolo Posted October 25, 2016 Report Posted October 25, 2016 1988 BMW 325i convertible daily driver (now, sunday driver for first 33 years. Odometer just ticked over 44,000 original miles. BMW stable mates: 1968 Camaro SS/RS 1974 Porsche 914 2.0l 1996 Suburban 2500 6.5l Diesel 2004 Chevrolet Dually 3500 6.6l Duramax 1994 Harley FXR Custom 2 Quote
Shadrach Posted October 25, 2016 Report Posted October 25, 2016 On 10/17/2016 at 11:47 PM, kerry said: I recently sold my 73 911T and my daily driver is a 996 Carrera. Without a doubt the 996 is the best track car out there not counting later cars produced by Porsche. I know a lot of Mooney owners like to compare their airplanes to a Porsche and that's fine, but when I fly my Mooney the last thing I think of is racing my Porsche on a track. I have an experimental Bakeng Duce that's stick and rudder with 150hp. When I bore holes in the sky my Duce has that tight turning Porsche feel. Nothing compared to Red Bull air racing but that's why those guys race Corvus Racer 540's and not Mooney's. 996 best track car? Having driven both in anger, I find that the mid-engined cars are better balanced (I'm not a minority in this assessment). The rear engine cars have a slight advantage accelerating out of the corners, but that can be almost completely negated with proper tire selection. I love 911s, but with little more than camber plates and an alignment, the 986 and 987 cars are just about the finest handling machines you can buy at any price...no quirks other than a tendency toward understeer with the factory alignment settings (easily resolved). Lotus is in the running if you want a fiberglass go cart with no amenities for the same money. 1 Quote
Shadrach Posted October 25, 2016 Report Posted October 25, 2016 The Prius comparison falls way short philosophically. A Mooney exhibits high performance, efficiency and it's also a pretty good looking design. A Prius has but one of those traits. Clarkson's top gear put a BMW M3 up against a Prius on it's test track. The Prius was driven all out and the M3 merely maintained the Prius's pace. Prius turned 17.2mpg and BMW 19.4mpg. If Prius were anything like a Mooney, it would be nipping at the M3s heals on a lot less gas... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F04MXepYiBs A better Auto comparison might be the Fiat Abarth. 1.4L, 30+MPG, 0-60 in under 7sec, top speed of 129 (governed). That's an economy car with heart. My current stable minus the Abarth which was re-homed in June in favor of a 3 series wagon (Baby mobile). 73 Triumph Daytona and 2002 986S will be on the sale block soon... 2 Quote
DonMuncy Posted October 25, 2016 Report Posted October 25, 2016 I've owned both Porsche and Lotus, and prefer the way Lotus handles to Porsche. I acknowledge that personal preferences are just that. Quote
Shadrach Posted October 25, 2016 Report Posted October 25, 2016 11 minutes ago, DonMuncy said: I've owned both Porsche and Lotus, and prefer the way Lotus handles to Porsche. I acknowledge that personal preferences are just that. Depends on the model. Until you've driven a mid-engined Pcar in anger, you just can't know. Unfortunately their really remarkable traits are only revealed at 6/10s or more... 1 Quote
DonMuncy Posted October 25, 2016 Report Posted October 25, 2016 3 hours ago, Shadrach said: Depends on the model. Until you've driven a mid-engined Pcar in anger, you just can't know. Unfortunately their really remarkable traits are only revealed at 6/10s or more... You may be right. I have only raced the rear engined ones. Quote
HRM Posted October 25, 2016 Report Posted October 25, 2016 4 hours ago, DonMuncy said: I've owned both Porsche and Lotus, and prefer the way Lotus handles to Porsche. I acknowledge that personal preferences are just that. I've owned a number of Porsches and went to get a Macan turbo (at the wife's insistence no less!) and wound up with an AMG instead. I am now a convert, especially after driving a version of my car at COTA. 13K miles later I still get a SEG when I get behind the wheel. First time I drove it I was taken back to the day my dad took me to drive go-karts. As for Mooney, every time I TO I get a SEG. We had a discussion going on MAPAlist about non-Mooney CFI's. I prefer a young buck who has never flown in a Mooney for my FR. I always have such fun with them, but at the end of the hour they always ask me if they can do a landing. That in itself speaks for the marque. Quote
Shadrach Posted October 26, 2016 Report Posted October 26, 2016 3 hours ago, HRM said: I've owned a number of Porsches and went to get a Macan turbo (at the wife's insistence no less!) and wound up with an AMG instead. I am now a convert, especially after driving a version of my car at COTA. 13K miles later I still get a SEG when I get behind the wheel. First time I drove it I was taken back to the day my dad took me to drive go-karts. As for Mooney, every time I TO I get a SEG. We had a discussion going on MAPAlist about non-Mooney CFI's. I prefer a young buck who has never flown in a Mooney for my FR. I always have such fun with them, but at the end of the hour they always ask me if they can do a landing. That in itself speaks for the marque. Apples to oranges. Muscle car vs. sports car. Quote
xcrmckenna Posted October 26, 2016 Report Posted October 26, 2016 1988 BMW 325i convertible daily driver (now, sunday driver for first 33 years. Odometer just ticked over 44,000 original miles. BMW stable mates: 1968 Camaro SS/RS 1974 Porsche 914 2.0l 1996 Suburban 2500 6.5l Diesel 2004 Chevrolet Dually 3500 6.6l Duramax 1994 Harley FXR Custom You had me at 68' camaro!!!!Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote
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