ryoder Posted April 17, 2015 Report Posted April 17, 2015 My airplane is hangared in Zephyrhills which is a low cost area. There is an upholstery and car audio shop right outside the airport and I have heard good things about them. I went inside and saw some of their very professional work including an airplane seat with nice stitching and black vinyl with perforated center section. The lady said I can bring my seats in and they will recover them and replace the foam for 600 for under 600 for the set. This is using their best vinyl with perforation in the middle. The side panels can also be redone in vinyl for a low cost. They said they don't bind carpet but gave me another company that does do it. All of their materials have flame propagation numbers and she said she can provide that to my IA. She knew what an IA is and also bar tends at skydive city. I think at this point I'll go with her on this and have a full vinyl interior that will outlast the rest of the airplane. I already have vinyl now but it's a mustard yellow and the foam has no support. She said to pull the plastic and have it painted at an automotive shop as they don't repair plastic. They could also cover it in vinyl or fabric. That will add weight so I'll probably buy some new plastic, and have some repaired at the body shop and sprayed. All in I hope to have a new interior for about 2k professionally done. That is the goal anyway. Quote
PTK Posted April 17, 2015 Report Posted April 17, 2015 Is this for vinyl or leather? For that money it should be leather. I'd ask her to break it down. What are you paying for material vs. labor. If she's talking vinyl, for that money you certainly can buy the leather on your own and bring it to them with the seats and pay them their labor to cover them. You'll need two hides and you can get it for ~200$ a hide. Quote
mike_elliott Posted April 17, 2015 Report Posted April 17, 2015 Is this for vinyl or leather? I'd ask her to break it down. What are you paying for material vs. labor. For that money you certainly can buy the leather on your own. Bring it to them with the seats and pay them their labor to cover them. Why do that? If Ryan wants leather, he can just ask them to quote leather. If he likes their numbers, great. If he feels more comfortable with the vinyl number great. No need to chicken pick the shop he has chosen, IMHO. We don't do that to dentist, no sense in doing that to a reputable shop. They didn't get their numbers low to begin with by gouging, Peter. Not everyone in aviation has the Big G price model one has to be wary of. 1 Quote
ryoder Posted April 17, 2015 Author Report Posted April 17, 2015 They can do leather too but she didn't quote it. I'll ask for the leather quote. My concern is matching since I won't be putting leather anywhere else but portions of the seats. 600 installed seems very fair because airtex gets about 1700 for their vinyl and premium cloth but then I have to install it. 2 Quote
PTK Posted April 17, 2015 Report Posted April 17, 2015 Ryan, what I'm saying is for that money you can do your entire seats in leather if you'd want that. One option is for you is to buy two hides on your own and bring it to them. Depending on the yield of the hides you select you may even have enough left over to do side panels and maybe the yokes. As for you Mike I don't know who spilled you corn flakes but please read my post very carefully and study it. No chicken picking anybody! I was simply discussing one possible option or approach with Ryan. Having done this myself I was sharing my experience. I thought this was a forum for discussion and sharing of ideas to help one another if we can. 1 Quote
mike_elliott Posted April 17, 2015 Report Posted April 17, 2015 Ryan, what I'm saying is for that money you can do your entire seats in leather if you'd want that. One option is for you is to buy two hides on your own and bring it to them. As for you Mike I don't know who spilled you corn flakes but please read the post very carefully and study it. I was simply discussing one possible option or approach with Ryan. Having done this myself I was sharing my experience. I thought this was a forum for discussion and sharing of ideas.  No that is not what you said, Peter. You said for him to acquire a quote splitting the labor and the materials so he could obtain leather on his own. "I'd ask her to break it down. What are you paying for material vs. labor. For that money you certainly can buy the leather on your own. Bring it to them with the seats and pay them their labor to cover them"  your opinion seems clear...cornflakes still in the box. Regardless, Ryan is not a child and doesn't need fatherly financial advice here. He is a very nice, intelligent gent who can decide how to do business himself. 1 Quote
PTK Posted April 17, 2015 Report Posted April 17, 2015 Yes, that's exactly what I said Mike. And I'm sure Ryan can speak for himself! You really only need to speak for yourself! Quote
Bob_Belville Posted April 17, 2015 Report Posted April 17, 2015 In 2012 I pretty much completely redid the interior of 943RW  using leather for seats, baggage area walls, rear seat kick panel, lower side walls and door trim. We used auto headliner material for the luggage door and the parts of the ceiling that is not formed plastic. The carpet was replaced with automotive spec carpet. All that was done by a local auto trim shop. It took 2 hides of leather, The trim expert installed the headliner and bound the edges of the carpet. After trying to make one several times out of our leather we finally bought a leather boot for the manual gear from AeroComfort. The plastic panels went to an auto body shop who repaired and painted all the panels. (I think that was 21 pieces.)  The first step was leather seats: $490. (including welding broken frame, new foam.) The rest of the work from the trim shop totaled $1966. The body shop: $500 Aero Comfort boot: $52.40 Skandia Labs, flame spread testing of leather, carpet, headliner material: $135. I did most of the removal and replacing - except for the installation of the headliner material. Total: $3143.40 (CB certified.) Quote
PTK Posted April 17, 2015 Report Posted April 17, 2015 Ryan, a few years ago I redid the interior. I negotiated with a reputable local auto and boat reupholstery shop for labor only. I purchased a very high quality leather (Spinneybeck Forte.) Two large hides cost me about 500$. You don't need to get Spinneybeck. There are good less expensive leathers. Labor to cover with my leather cost about 1800$. This included seats in full leather front and back, side trim pieces, arm rests and leather storage pockets. Also memory foam for seats which the shop provided. Bought aviation certificated carpet at close out prices and had it shipped to my home. A roll of carpet cost around 180$ iirc. I don't remember square yards but it was a whole roll and I had plenty left over. I removed entire interior. Brought old carpet pieces home and used them as templates to cut new ones. For the floor pieces I cut them a little larger because the old ones were too short around the perimeter. This gave me a pleasing custom fit. Took new pieces to the airplane to be sure they fit well. They did! Took them to a carpet binder and had them bound while I waited for 40$. The plastics I redid with SEM colorcoat using the SEM process. Cost for SEM materials 160$. Also cleaned and repainted floor around the rails. Total cost: about 2700$ and some elbow grease. Very happy with the results. I had some left over leather and recently I did my yokes with it too! 1 Quote
Marauder Posted April 17, 2015 Report Posted April 17, 2015 Someone had to say cornflakes! Now my girls are hungry and I don't have any in the house! Thanks guys... You guys are always costing me money! Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk 2 Quote
PTK Posted April 17, 2015 Report Posted April 17, 2015 Chris, my comment is: "...oh my God!!!!" You need to negotiate wholesale pricing! Be sure it includes free shipping inside the house not to curb only! Quote
Marauder Posted April 17, 2015 Report Posted April 17, 2015 Chris, my comment is: "...oh my God!!!!" You need to negotiate wholesale pricing! Be sure it includes free shipping inside the house not to curb only! The bad news is that even though I am a premiere member for both Costco and BJ's, neither will provide logistical services. Sure, they will drive the loaded tractor trailer up to my house, but nooooo, they won't unload it for me! Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Quote
Shadrach Posted April 17, 2015 Report Posted April 17, 2015 Is this for vinyl or leather? For that money it should be leather. I'd ask her to break it down. What are you paying for material vs. labor. If she's talking vinyl, for that money you certainly can buy the leather on your own and bring it to them with the seats and pay them their labor to cover them. You'll need two hides and you can get it for ~200$ a hide. Â Pete, Have I been out of the market for that long? $150 per seat for custom, high quality synthetic seats with perforated center pieces seems beyond reasonable. Is that not less expensive than the Airtex roll your own option? Quote
ArtVandelay Posted April 17, 2015 Report Posted April 17, 2015 That's a good price: I used leather on seats, the headliner, and various trim pieces, armrest. I went with a modern look, no welt seems, more bucket like I had ashtrays removed, various holes broken parts fixed, unfortunately I had redo various parts because the old parts were a cardboard material. It cost me $7200, I'm not in the CB club. Quote
flyboy0681 Posted April 17, 2015 Report Posted April 17, 2015 I see numbers thrown around that to me are fairly low for refurbished interior. Albeit some responses are from do-it-yourselfer's, but why do some people pay $20k for new interiors? Quote
ArtVandelay Posted April 17, 2015 Report Posted April 17, 2015 I see numbers thrown around that to me are fairly low for refurbished interior. Albeit some responses are from do-it-yourselfer's, but why do some people pay $20k for new interiors?10k is the highest I've seen for a Mooney, as I mention my carpeting was backed by cardboard, probably saved money (my old interior was done by ModWorks) for somebody, depends on how professional, what options, what materials...the devil is in the details...to each his own. My avionics were the same, clearly done by an amateur, paid or DIY: some unconnected pieces, not labeled switches, loose wires, cut wires. Ugh! Quote
Bob_Belville Posted April 17, 2015 Report Posted April 17, 2015 I spent 3 AMU plus my time. New surfaces, refinished plastics. No one will mistake it for Hector's work but it is pretty nice. Â http://mooneyspace.com/gallery/image/33680-new-interior-september-2012/ http://mooneyspace.com/gallery/image/33681-interior-refinished-2012/ (All the gray is leather.) Quote
Danb Posted April 17, 2015 Report Posted April 17, 2015 Chris you may only need one hide of those sweeties.l 1 Quote
PTK Posted April 17, 2015 Report Posted April 17, 2015 Pete, Have I been out of the market for that long? $150 per seat for custom, high quality synthetic seats with perforated center pieces seems beyond reasonable. Is that not less expensive than the Airtex roll your own option? Yes Ross. I agree it's pretty inexpensive if it's 600$ for all four seats. But it is for fabric with vinyl. I read it to be 600$ for the set. Set being one seat/back combo. Quote
Yooper Rocketman Posted April 17, 2015 Report Posted April 17, 2015 Someone had to say cornflakes! Now my girls are hungry and I don't have any in the house! Thanks guys... You guys are always costing me money! Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk  I'm new to this forum, but this is just gross.  Have you ever been checked out by a doctor? 1 Quote
Shadrach Posted April 17, 2015 Report Posted April 17, 2015 Yes Ross. I agree it's pretty inexpensive if it's 600$ for all four seats. But it is for fabric with vinyl. I read it to be 600$ for the set. Set being one seat/back combo.  That's how I read it. If you're reading it right, than it's about $900 over the Airtex covers. I wonder if they're getting the stuff from Airtex and just charging $900 to fit it. Quote
Bob_Belville Posted April 17, 2015 Report Posted April 17, 2015 Yes Ross. I agree it's pretty inexpensive if it's 600$ for all four seats. But it is for fabric with vinyl. I read it to be 600$ for the set. Set being one seat/back combo. My seat, 2 front, bench rear, with new foam, frame repair, leather, $490 total, in 2012. That included the kick panel facing on the back seat. I did the r&r. Quote
Marauder Posted April 17, 2015 Report Posted April 17, 2015 Absolutely! Even by a few dentists! Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Quote
Shadrach Posted April 17, 2015 Report Posted April 17, 2015 My seat, 2 front, bench rear, with new foam, frame repair, leather, $490 total, in 2012. That included the kick panel facing on the back seat. I did the r&r.   That is beyond reasonable. My kick panels are fine. Who did your seats? Quote
Shadrach Posted April 17, 2015 Report Posted April 17, 2015 Someone had to say cornflakes! Now my girls are hungry and I don't have any in the house! Thanks guys... You guys are always costing me money! Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk   My favorite part about this nasty photo is that Black Bikini Chic is holding up a 40lb. slab of Green Bikini Chic...Teamwork!  3 Quote
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