JPI 900 installation question

[dcrogers11]

I'm installing a JPI 900 on the right side of my panel to replace all my old analog gauges in my '64C.  In doing so, I'll be cutting out a new panel.  My present plan is to install an Air Gizmo/Garmin 795 just to the right of the radio stack then the JPI just to the right of it.  Has anyone had an issue with the new engine monitor being too far away from the FAA's recommended pilot's line of sight for approval?

 

Thanks,

Don

[jrwilson]

I just had one installed in a 63c. I put mine just to the right of the radios and the rpm /mp are very clear and easy to see. Adding a foot of distance away from pilot might make the fuel pressure /flow/oil pressure section a little small... They're sort of small as is...I would probably put the Jpi next to the radios and GPS to the right of that. You should have tons of room on that right panel now, why not gps below the Jpi?

[N601RX]

I put a 900 in about a month ago. The stc limits the distance from the pilot. If it's to for to the right you will also have a viewing angle issue and be unable to see the grey text on the non primary area of it. It seems the viewing angle is wider if it is mounted on the horizontal orientation.

[jrwilson]

See the panel over on the right is pretty empty, only the gps and circuit breakers are left, plus the jpi

[Marauder]

See the panel over on the right is pretty empty, only the gps and circuit breakers are left, plus the jpi

You aerobatic pilots drive me crazy!

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[Marauder]

When I was installing my 830, we played around with an angle mount for installing in the position you are discussing. Since the engine gauges are really important to me, I opted to center mount it. If I do replace my second radio, I may need to move it to the right and angle it.

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[jrwilson]

You aerobatic pilots drive me crazy!

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Thanks for making me fly right... I don't know why it does that, always looks fine on my screen...

[Marauder]

Not sure either, but it happens to a few people.

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[dcrogers11]

Thanks guys.  I beleive the A/I said it was to be no more than 21" away from the center of "six pack" on the left.  Here's a picture I had found of someone else's installation that I liked.  I don't  recall who did it but I liked it.  Does anyone claim this nice panel layout. 

[N601RX]

In the vertical orientation you will not be able to see the 900 in that position. I have mine directly beside the radio and when mounted vertical the grey text is already starting to fade out. If mounting it vertical on that side of the panel it is going to need to be mounted at an angle facing the pilot.

[jrwilson]

I believe that may be the 930, it is bigger...

[dcrogers11]

Thanks.  I'm going to move things around and mount it horizontally just to the right of the stack and the Airgizmo/795 to the right of it.  Is is accurate to say from everyone's experience that it is easier to read in horizontal orientation?  Also reading the mounting instructions online, it appears that the 900 has to be mounted in the standard 3.125" hole and I didn't see that it could be mounted flush if the panel were cut to fit it. 

Don

[N601RX]

They sell a flush mount bracket for less than $100. Get someone to hook the power and gnd wire up for you and make sure the viewing angle is ok. It will only take a few minutes and could save a lot of redo. You can see the red and green fine, but the grey fades out very quickly.

[fantom]

One question. What's more critical most of the time, the condition of you engine or another map? The flush mount is slick. Do play with vertical vs horizontal to determine what's best for you. Good luck.

[N6758N]

Here is mine, I'm just finishing up the installation now. I decided to put the alarm light right next to the vacuum warning lights.

[PTK]

Mooney put the primary engine instruments right in front of the pilot's face for a reason!

That's also where I put my 800. Not all the way on the other side!

[carusoam]

Put something like this in front of the pilot...

http://www.insightavionics.com/catalog.htm

Then poke the G3 graphic...?

Peter's idea on placement, but expanded to include MP, RPM, FF, GAMI spread at peak, and alarms....

Best regards,

-a-

[Marauder]

Mooney put the primary engine instruments right in front of the pilot's face for a reason!

That's also where I put my 800. Not all the way on the other side!

Look at them newly covered yokes with a black button top. Looks good...

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[dcrogers11]

Mooney put the primary engine instruments right in front of the pilot's face for a reason!

That's also where I put my 800. Not all the way on the other side!

 

As much as I would like to own a late model Mooney with it's 747 size panel and room for a couple of G1000's, I'm stuck with my poor man's Mooney with primary engine instrumentation on the right.    

[carusoam]

The second VOR would find a home on the right side...

Unless you still use two VORs to identify intersections as primary nav...

Best regards,

-a-

[Marauder]

As much as I would like to own a late model Mooney with it's 747 size panel and room for a couple of G1000's, I'm stuck with my poor man's Mooney with primary engine instrumentation on the right.

Post a picture of your panel Don. Wonder if there is some other stuff than can be moved around. I would have stuck the 830 in my plane above the throttle quadrant, but the throttle lever blocks it when I am at full throttle.

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[ArtVandelay]

You can wire up warning lamps for certain engine sensors; fuel remaking, oil pres, etc on 830 so I assume same is true for 900

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[PTK]

As much as I would like to own a late model Mooney with it's 747 size panel and room for a couple of G1000's, I'm stuck with my poor man's Mooney with primary engine instrumentation on the right.

Don, your Mooney is beautiful as is every Mooney!

Maybe the 900 is just too big for your panel. Have you considered the 800?

As Anthony already mentioned you could move one of the indicators and put it in it's spot.

Are you certain the 900 will not fit there?

I'd do that before putting a primary instrument out of direct view.

I have nothing on my right stack. I don't want to have to turn my head back and forth. And with primary instrumentation over there you'll be doing that a lot!

[N601RX]

Your radio stack is offset to the right about 6 inches when compared to an older model. A remote indicator light may be the best you can do on an older model.

[Aerodon]

Don, your Mooney is beautiful as is every Mooney!

Maybe the 900 is just too big for your panel. Have you considered the 800?

As Anthony already mentioned you could move one of the indicators and put it in it's spot.

Are you certain the 900 will not fit there?

I'd do that before putting a primary instrument out of direct view.

I have nothing on my right stack. I don't want to have to turn my head back and forth. And with primary instrumentation over there you'll be doing that a lot!

The 900 / 830 are almost the same size. The 930 is quite a bit bigger,

Don