My MSC probably didn't try to kill me, but their carelessness could have - what's a reasonable resolution?

[Steve Dawson]

What prerequisites does a MSC need to get the Mooney certificate? How difficult is it?

[fantom]

Is this normal? This is my first plane. I assume sending parts out to specialists is normal, but is the J muffler especially complicated?

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Neither normal nor particularly complex. Six+ weeks for reconditioning is quite odd. What shop has your plane? Who did they send the muffler to?? Did you get an estimate or quote on the muffler work beforehand?

BTW, that's a most kind offer for a new muffler. Hope you don't need it.

Time to demand specific answers!

[PTK]

Time to demand specific answers!

Man! the double standards from the peanut gallery!

 

Unreal!

[ArtVandelay]

I've got a new J muffler on hand in a box in my hangar here in the Florida panhandle. I'll sell it to you for cost if you need it. I'm surprised it is taking so long for your shop to procure a new one.

Thanks, I'll call the shop today to see what's up...I'll get back to you...the problem was discovered when we tried the cabin heat and got exhaust instead, no CO detector was needed. So I don't know what all is involved, if it's the shroud, the muffler, or both.

[ArtVandelay]

Neither normal nor particularly complex. Six+ weeks for reconditioning is quite odd. What shop has your plane? Who did they send the muffler to?? Did you get an estimate or quote on the muffler work beforehand?

BTW, that's a most kind offer for a new muffler. Hope you don't need it.

Time to demand specific answers!

I'm at Bradley Aviation in KFPR, the muffler assembly from Ft. Lauderdale, they were moving their shop so apparently fell behind. I got an rough estimate for all of it, the big question was going to be the landing gear motor, apparently there is some expensive parts that may be involved

[ArtVandelay]

Thanks, I'll call the shop today to see what's up..

Just called, they are 99% done, they have to fabricate one more piece...almost, yet so far away

[N9453V]

My plane is currently being repaired, they sent the the landing gear motor and the muffler out for repairs. The gear motor came back after 3 weeks, we're at 6 weeks for the muffler? Is this normal? This is my first plane. I assume sending parts out to specialists is normal, but is the J muffler especially complicated?

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No, not normal at all! I sent an entire exhaust system to Dawley in Burlington, WI and it took less than a week for them to do a complete overhaul of it including the muffler.

 

-Andrew

[fantom]

Man! the double standards from the peanut gallery!

 

Unreal!

 

What's unreal is how quickly your meds are wearing off

 

[fantom]

No, not normal at all! I sent an entire exhaust system to Dawley in Burlington, WI and it took less than a week for them to do a complete overhaul of it including the muffler.

 

-Andrew

 

Dawley is the gold standard. I had my exhaust system redone by Planex Haust here in Ft. Lauderdale about 12 years ago, and no problems to date (knock on wood). Came back (actually I picked it up) looking like a new muffler.

 

I can check them out on Saturday if you haven't gotten in touch with them before that.

 

No, I neither have, nor give a flying rat's ass, about absolute irrefutable "proof"., before my favorite crazy dent asks

[PTK]

Time to demand specific answers!

Don't chew your peanuts with your mouth open!

The double standard of the peanut gallery is unreal!

Demanding specific answers only when it fits their crooked and misguided arguments!

[fantom]

Don't chew your peanuts with your mouth open!

The double standard of the peanut gallery is unreal!

Demanding specific answers only when it fits their crooked and misguided arguments!

 

Seriously, Peter, as a fellow Mooney pilot, I'm worried about your thought process, and you being in the same air as the rest of us. As a medical professional you should be able to realize that you need help.

 

You badger the manufacturer of the engine additive CamGuard, and the President of Aspen, with questions the answers of which you're grossly unqualified to even understand and impugn their integrity, while I suggest that a fellow MS member demand answers about delays from his repair shop, and you suggest that I'm misguided. Talk about peanuts.

 

 

Please seek health, my friend. Yes, my last word.

[PTK]

Really man, you make it so difficult to take you seriously!

You know Kollin's statements were so intentionally untrue and misleading taken right from the "I can't make this stuff up" bin! He changed his tune once he got exposed. Your problem is you're so high on the Kool-aid that you find it absurd that he'd make such a false statement and you blindly believed him! How dare question those statements no matter how misleading they are! That I find insane!

This is an example of a much more pervasive epidemic in the pilot community: Doubt.

Engine management, engine manufacturer's recommendations, airframe manufacturer's recommendations and the POH all are doubted by pilots and up for scrutiny. Consequently pilots believe without question everything some people say, because the perception is they must know better. Combined with the stagnant to slow progress of engine manufacturers to come out from the stone age pilots have blinders on. There is a hunger for new technology and new ways of doing things that the minute they hear somebody or see something they jump in with all fours blinders and all! So as an example Mr. Kollin didn't have to fabricate myths. That's the irony of it!

May I recommend a lot less posturing and hypocrisy and a lot more introspection from the peanut gallery.

[Apollo]

Can you guys start posting with new usernames so you don't continuously fight in Mooney threads? I'd be glad to set you both up with new accounts if you aren't inclined!

[Greg_D]

I haven't been here for a while.  After reading this thread, it reminds me of the Red Board quite a bit.  The OP's choice of title is a bit strong IMHO.  That said, am I the only one who does a very thorough pre-flight inspection after maintenance, especially after an annual?  And yes, I remove the cowling as a part of that pre-flight.

 

A question for Aaron...why did the wing skins need replacing?  Was it a gear up landing?  If so, what caused that?

[aaronk25]

I haven't been here for a while. After reading this thread, it reminds me of the Red Board quite a bit. The OP's choice of title is a bit strong IMHO. That said, am I the only one who does a very thorough pre-flight inspection after maintenance, especially after an annual? And yes, I remove the cowling as a part of that pre-flight.

A question for Aaron...why did the wing skins need replacing? Was it a gear up landing? If so, what caused that?

Covered it post #40 recovery company damaged it....

[N33GG]

 That said, am I the only one who does a very thorough pre-flight inspection after maintenance, especially after an annual?  And yes, I remove the cowling as a part of that pre-flight.

 

Nope.  Check my previous post.  Pilot in command responsible for airworthiness, etc.  Not only a vigorous pre-flight, but after any annual or maintenance, the first flight is a thorough test flight.  No exceptions.  No launching off to get anywhere VFR or IFR.  Especially IFR for crying out loud!  Gotta get home will wait til the test flight is completed.

[FloridaMan]

How did you manage to take off without verifying you had vacuum?