FAA CARES: block ownership info on aircraft registry portal

[EricJ]

1 hour ago, N201MKTurbo said:

Was that over the Verde River?

Significantly west of the river.   I dug out the letter, and the description is:

1/2 mile East of Pima to 144th St North/South between Stagecoach Pass and Happy Valley Road. 

That includes the preserve area around Granite Mountain and Brown's Mountain, but also coincidentally includes Troon (a fairly wealthy neighborhood in North Scottsdale).    The request in the letter is to maintain 2000 ft AGL, which is generally not unreasonable.    Still, I'm sure they were using the ADS-B-out tail number and registration info to get the addy's to send the letters to.

 

[N201MKTurbo]

2 hours ago, EricJ said:

Significantly west of the river.   I dug out the letter, and the description is:

1/2 mile East of Pima to 144th St North/South between Stagecoach Pass and Happy Valley Road. 

That includes the preserve area around Granite Mountain and Brown's Mountain, but also coincidentally includes Troon (a fairly wealthy neighborhood in North Scottsdale).    The request in the letter is to maintain 2000 ft AGL, which is generally not unreasonable.    Still, I'm sure they were using the ADS-B-out tail number and registration info to get the addy's to send the letters to.

 

Was that for not disturbing the wildlife, or the wealthy?

I just looked that up. When flying from the south and going to DVT outside of the class B, you fly right through there.

[EricJ]

18 hours ago, N201MKTurbo said:

Was that for not disturbing the wildlife, or the wealthy?

Or the lawyers getting paid to send the letters? 

18 hours ago, N201MKTurbo said:

I just looked that up. When flying from the south and going to DVT outside of the class B, you fly right through there.

Yes, it's a convenient way around the bravo, so I think they were sending a lot of these letters out.   This was about six years ago, and I haven't heard of anyone getting one of these letters for a long time.   That was kind of still early days for mandatory ADS-B-out, too, but I don't know how else they would have been getting tail numbers to look up registrations.

[DCarlton]

I noticed yesterday that Flight Aware shows my registration expired.  The FAA Database shows it current.  I contacted Flightaware.  They said they couldn't do anything about it; they could only use the data pushed to them from the FAA.  Publishing your data is of concern; publishing bad data makes it a non-starter for me.  I'll likely opt out now too.

[Matthew P]

What gets me is that you can't run a person's license plate to get owner info but you can run an individual's Registration Number and get their info.

[Pritch]

Here in Humboldt County, on the North Coast of CA.  a company Named Vector Landing Fees Management teamed up with the county and use ADSB to charge a landing fee ($23.00) to pilots coming in for a visit.  Even if they only stopped for fuel (which is an outrageous price of $7.20 a gallon).  They have installed antennas at the local airports (4) so by going DARK you can save some $$$$$$.  There is a recent article in Flying Magazine By Meg Godlewski about this.  So follow the link and save https://www.faa.gov/pilots/ladd.

Pritch

[toto]

2 hours ago, Pritch said:

Here in Humboldt County, on the North Coast of CA.  a company Named Vector Landing Fees Management teamed up with the county and use ADSB to charge a landing fee ($23.00) to pilots coming in for a visit.  Even if they only stopped for fuel (which is an outrageous price of $7.20 a gallon).  They have installed antennas at the local airports (4) so by going DARK you can save some $$$$$$.  There is a recent article in Flying Magazine By Meg Godlewski about this.  So follow the link and save https://www.faa.gov/pilots/ladd.

Pritch

There’s a MS thread on Vector

https://mooneyspace.com/topic/50237-backlash-against-vector-airport-systems/

 

[Bolter]

48 minutes ago, Pritch said:

Here in Humboldt County, on the North Coast of CA.  a company Named Vector Landing Fees Management teamed up with the county and use ADSB to charge a landing fee ($23.00) to pilots coming in for a visit.  Even if they only stopped for fuel (which is an outrageous price of $7.20 a gallon).  They have installed antennas at the local airports (4) so by going DARK you can save some $$$$$$.  There is a recent article in Flying Magazine By Meg Godlewski about this.  So follow the link and save https://www.faa.gov/pilots/ladd.

Pritch

Which airport is charging $23 landing fees on Mooney-size GA? I landed at Murrary (KEUK) and Arcata (KACV) in 2024 without getting charged.  

Over the years, I have received Vector billing for SMO landing fees and last year a bill for overnight transient parking at Truckee.  Both were expected.  I would argue the the SMO landing fee was unjust in that it was implemented as part of their effort to close the airport, but it was published and I knew the bill would be coming.

-dan

[Pritch]

10 hours ago, Bolter said:

Which airport is charging $23 landing fees on Mooney-size GA? I landed at Murrary (KEUK) and Arcata (KACV) in 2024 without getting charged.  

Over the years, I have received Vector billing for SMO landing fees and last year a bill for overnight transient parking at Truckee.  Both were expected.  I would argue the the SMO landing fee was unjust in that it was implemented as part of their effort to close the airport, but it was published and I knew the bill would be coming.

-dan

They just started the first of April 2025.  Although the local pilot are exempt, we are trying t fight it and would encourage all pilots to write the Humboldt County Board of Supervisors about how wrong this is.

Pritch

[Bolter]

12 hours ago, Pritch said:

They just started the first of April 2025.  Although the local pilot are exempt, we are trying t fight it and would encourage all pilots to write the Humboldt County Board of Supervisors about how wrong this is.

Pritch

Considering the difference in service between airports, it is shocking that they apply one of the higher landing fees ($23) at all airports across the board.  Eureka is a small airport with nothing but a self serve pump, and ACV is multiple runways and a commercial terminal building.  Especially as a fuel stop, this removes the entire county from my planning.