M20F Gear Up KCCR

[Mooney in Oz]

https://asn.flightsafety.org/wikibase/479376

[1980Mooney]

8 hours ago, Mooney in Oz said:

https://asn.flightsafety.org/wikibase/479376

I find it odd that it says "experienced a landing gear issue and made an emergency gear up landing at runway 19R at Buchanan Field Airport (CCR/KCCR), Concord, California."

• He took off from Byron Airport, (C83) and flew a non-direct route to Buchanan Field Airport (CCR/KCCR)
  • If his gear were stuck down - no biggie - but he would have flown directly to his home drome Buchanan Field Airport (CCR/KCCR) ( where all his flights originate from).
  • If his gear were stuck part way, then he would have also expected him to fly direct and then circled the airport trying to correct the problem
    • In the picture there is no indication of partial deployment
• His approach to Buchanan Field Airport (CCR/KCCR) appears to be basically straight in.  If he experienced a gear failure on Final, I would have expected to see a balked landing and a circling procedure to trouble shoot.
  • But no - just straight in.
• I listened to LiveATC KCCR Ground/Tower #2 at 03:00 Zulu Feb 21. 
  • At about 5:30 minutes Mooney N3490N contacts the Tower and requests RNAV 19R (The owner is not Instrument Rated per FAA Airmen)
    • Winds were calm at the time.  Sky clear. 10 mile visibility.  30.13 in Hg. End of Civil Twilight was about 6:20 PM PST and this happened at 7:07 PM PST.
  • The Tower immediately responds that he is cleared to land.
  • There is a lot of commotion at 8:10 min - the radio says "Mooney landed on 19R - It looks like it was wheeled up"
    • The Tower closes the runway and rolls a firetruck.
  • The Pilot of N3490N NEVER ANNOUNCED TO THE TOWER WHILE INBOUND OR ON FINAL THAT HE HAD ANY LANDING GEAR ISSUE
• The owner of the plane is 70 years old per internet,

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Edited February 23 by 1980Mooney

[toto]

4 minutes ago, 1980Mooney said:

I find it odd that it says "experienced a landing gear issue and made an emergency gear up landing at runway 19R at Buchanan Field Airport (CCR/KCCR), Concord, California."

• He took off from Byron Airport, (C83) and flew a non direct route to Buchanan Field Airport (CCR/KCCR)
  • If his gear were stuck down - no biggie - but he would have flown directly to his home drome Buchanan Field Airport (CCR/KCCR) ( where all his flights originate from).
  • If his gear were stuck part way, then he would have also expected him to fly direct and then circled the airport trying to correct the problem
    • In the picture there is no indication of partial deployment
• His approach to Buchanan Field Airport (CCR/KCCR) appears to be basically straight in.  If he experienced a gear failure on Final, I would have expected to see a balked landing and a circling procedure to trouble shoot.
  • But no - just straight in.
• I listened to LiveATC KCCR Ground/Tower #2 at 03:00 Zulu Feb 21. 
  • At about 5:30 minutes Mooney N3490N contacts the Tower and requests RNAV 19R.
  • The Tower clears him to land.
  • At about there is a lot of commotion at 8:10 min - the radio says "Mooney landed on 19R - It looks like it was wheeled up"
    • The Tower closes the runway. 
  • The Pilot of N3490N NEVER ANNOUNCED TO THE TOWER WHILE INBOUND OR ON FINAL THAT IT HAD ANY LANDING GEAR ISSUE
• The owner of the plane is 70 years old per internet,

Winds were calm at the time.  Sky clear. 10 mile visibility.  30.13 in Hg. End of Civil Twilight was about 6:20 PM PST and this happened at 7:07 PM PST.

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Yeah, you have to wonder if this quote was from someone in the media.

[Hank]

10 minutes ago, toto said:

Yeah, you have to wonder if this quote was from someone in the media.

Kinda like the linked article that said an airplane crashed at the airport . . . .

[Joshua Blackh4t]

2 hours ago, 1980Mooney said:

 

• I listened to LiveATC KCCR Ground/Tower #2 at 03:00 Zulu Feb 21. 
  • At about 5:30 minutes Mooney N3490N contacts the Tower and requests RNAV 19R (The owner is not Instrument Rated per FAA Airmen)
    • Winds were calm at the time.  Sky clear. 10 mile visibility.  30.13 in Hg. End of Civil Twilight was about 6:20 PM PST and this happened at 7:07 PM PST.
  • The Tower immediately responds that he is cleared to land.

Sort of a side question, is there any issue with requesting an instrument approach when in vfr and not IFR rated? 

Poor plane. Same colours as mine. Hope mine never looks like that. 

[Hank]

4 minutes ago, Joshua Blackh4t said:

Sort of a side question, is there any issue with requesting an instrument approach when in vfr and not IFR rated? 

Would that count as accepting an IFR clearance? There are rules and requirements for that . . . . Equipment, training and currency pop to mind.

[MikeOH]

23 minutes ago, Joshua Blackh4t said:

Sort of a side question, is there any issue with requesting an instrument approach when in vfr and not IFR rated? 

Poor plane. Same colours as mine. Hope mine never looks like that. 

No bueno if you are not instrument rated and current.  Just ask for a VFR practice approach.

[toto]

3 hours ago, MikeOH said:

No bueno if you are not instrument rated and current.  Just ask for a VFR practice approach.

This is the way.