Do You Secure Your Cargo?

[Fly Boomer]

  On 1/5/2024 at 5:44 PM, Hank said:

Wouldn't wingnuts get in the way of loading baggage? They stick up a good bit.

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Yeah, I didn't think that through.  Maybe nut plates in the floor, and wing bolts?  But then that would attract debris into the holes.  My baggage floor seems to accumulate gunk if not vacuumed frequently.

[1964-M20E]

how about these people you can get a custom webbing size to your specification.  Little expensive but if secured to the cargo area properly would provide good containment.  I'd stay away from anything metal that may dislodge.

 

https://www.usnetting.com/cargo-netting/cargo-nets/1-inch-webbing-cargo-nets/loops/

[blaine beaven]

  On 1/7/2024 at 7:57 PM, 1964-M20E said:

how about these people you can get a custom webbing size to your specification.  Little expensive but if secured to the cargo area properly would provide good containment.  I'd stay away from anything metal that may dislodge.

 

https://www.usnetting.com/cargo-netting/cargo-nets/1-inch-webbing-cargo-nets/loops/

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How are you supposed to attach that to the ceiling? The only cargo attach points are on the floor

[larryb]

For mine I 3D printed seat rail attachment mounts. Even though plastic they failed at 700 lb pull and I use 4. Should be strong enough.


The upper section of the net clips to the shoulder harness attach points.

[GeeBee]

  On 1/7/2024 at 10:28 PM, blaine beaven said:

How are you supposed to attach that to the ceiling? The only cargo attach points are on the floor

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Attach the aft end of the net to the cargo straps in the rear. Attach the middle to the shoulder harness point. Attach the front to shackles in the front floor tracks. The netting sits over and cinched onto the cargo.

[blaine beaven]

  On 1/8/2024 at 1:38 PM, GeeBee said:

Attach the aft end of the net to the cargo straps in the rear. Attach the middle to the shoulder harness point. Attach the front to shackles in the front floor tracks. The netting sits over and cinched onto the cargo.

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Ah - my plane has no shoulder harnesses in the rear. 

[GeeBee]

  On 1/9/2024 at 5:01 AM, blaine beaven said:

Ah - my plane has no shoulder harnesses in the rear. 

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You could attach your net to the rear seat belt outboard hard point with straps.

[EricJ]

  On 1/9/2024 at 12:47 PM, GeeBee said:

You could attach your net to the rear seat belt outboard hard point with straps.

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Anywhere on the cage hoop around there would work, I'd think, up to the top of the ceiling.    The main issues would probably be not goobering up the headliner too badly, and doing it in such a way that somebody in the rear seat won't hit their head or anything else on it in turbulence or something.   Sounds doable to me.

[GeeBee]

  On 1/9/2024 at 2:59 PM, EricJ said:

Anywhere on the cage hoop around there would work, I'd think, up to the top of the ceiling.    The main issues would probably be not goobering up the headliner too badly, and doing it in such a way that somebody in the rear seat won't hit their head or anything else on it in turbulence or something.   Sounds doable to me.

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I think the point was, he did not want to cut into his headliner.

[LANCECASPER]

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[GeeBee]

  On 1/10/2024 at 1:46 AM, LANCECASPER said:

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I do that but I have the cargo net under the belts and I hook the straps to the clevis pins to the cargo net.

[JohnB]

  On 1/3/2024 at 11:51 PM, PT20J said:

John King told a story on one of his videos of crash landing in a field and a toolbox he had on the hat rack went flying between he and Martha and made a rectangular hole in the windshield.

I don't usually have that much cargo, but I use the Mooney straps plus I carry a couple of extra straps to augment them.

I like the cargo net idea. Where did you find one small enough for the Mooney baggage compartment (Most I've seen are for cars an

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I heard John tell that story as well and since then, I never put anything heavy in the hat rack compartment (usually towels, light boxes, papers, that wouldn't hurt much if it were to hit me in the head) Putting hats in there might be a good idea. 

  On 1/4/2024 at 3:28 AM, Skates97 said:

Has anyone added tie-down rings in the cargo area of an old Mooney? I would love to add some.

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YES!! I installed four tie down rings in the four corners on the floor of my baggage compartment that can hold more than 100 lbs each. I use them mostly for attaching a strap to a harness for animal/ dog transports so the dogs can rest comfortably on a bed in the baggage compartment and be secure. If I have lots of luggage or things back there, I can easily use the rings to secure straps to secure the items to the floor.  

[Skates97]

  On 1/21/2024 at 6:46 AM, JohnB said:

I heard John tell that story as well and since then, I never put anything heavy in the hat rack compartment (usually towels, light boxes, papers, that wouldn't hurt much if it were to hit me in the head) Putting hats in there might be a good idea. 

YES!! I installed four tie down rings in the four corners on the floor of my baggage compartment that can hold more than 100 lbs each. I use them mostly for attaching a strap to a harness for animal/ dog transports so the dogs can rest comfortably on a bed in the baggage compartment and be secure. If I have lots of luggage or things back there, I can easily use the rings to secure straps to secure the items to the floor.  

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I'll talk with my IA for his ideas and may add them when I do my annual next month. Should be easy for me to add and him to sign off.