carusoam Posted November 28, 2022 Report Posted November 28, 2022 1 hour ago, geoffb said: there are plenty of examples to the contrary. And what's wrong with a G model? expect they left out an important part of the discussion…. On a scale of 0 - 10…. All Mooneys are in the 9 to 10 category…. Depending on the individual’s mission… some Mooneys score lower than others… personal opinions at work… The M20G is a great way to get the mid body volume, with the carburetor’s simplicity…. But, if your goal is all out speed…. The M20G only scores a 9.0… Often referred to as the turtle of Mooneys… Realistically, still way faster than brands b and c flying behind the same engine… All in the context…. Best regards, -a- 1 Quote
M20F Posted November 28, 2022 Report Posted November 28, 2022 1 hour ago, geoffb said: there are plenty of examples to the contrary. And what's wrong with a G model? Koolaide drinkers keep Jim Jones in business. Quote
hubcap Posted November 29, 2022 Report Posted November 29, 2022 On 11/27/2022 at 5:07 PM, M20F said: Hard to say which was a worse airplane the Statesman or the 231. Certainly takes a new engine, intercooler, and a host of other things to allow it to fly more hours in a year than sit in the shop. If you want to jump into the world of turbo Mooney’s start with the 252. Is your opinion of the 231 based on personal ownership, or something you read on the internet? I am genuinely curious because I couldn't be happier with my 231. 1 Quote
Pinecone Posted November 29, 2022 Report Posted November 29, 2022 Less good is not necessarily bad. 9,0 is not as good as 10.0 but it is a lot better than 6.0 1 Quote
Will.iam Posted November 30, 2022 Report Posted November 30, 2022 7 hours ago, Pinecone said: Less good is not necessarily bad. 9,0 is not as good as 10.0 but it is a lot better than 6.0 Are we talking planes or girls or both? 1 Quote
jlunseth Posted November 30, 2022 Report Posted November 30, 2022 8 hours ago, hubcap said: Is your opinion of the 231 based on personal ownership, or something you read on the internet? I am genuinely curious because I couldn't be happier with my 231. Yeah, me too. You have to learn how to run the engine but the maintenance is pretty good. Now, if it was the factory 231 with the GB I can’t speak to that. Quote
carusoam Posted November 30, 2022 Report Posted November 30, 2022 If I ever wear out this plane…. I would seriously consider the Acclaim as a worthy replacement… That would be one really expensive squeeze, to consider its worth…. Go forever-planes…. Best regards, -a- Quote
Pinecone Posted November 30, 2022 Report Posted November 30, 2022 7 hours ago, Will.iam said: Are we talking planes or girls or both? Would you turn done a 9? In EITHER category????? Also true for whisky and beer. Quote
Will.iam Posted December 2, 2022 Report Posted December 2, 2022 On 11/30/2022 at 7:04 AM, Pinecone said: Would you turn done a 9? In EITHER category????? Also true for whisky and beer. Depends on attitude some are easy going others you have to fight like hell to get them to do what you want them to do even if they are a 9 or a 10. — sometimes the juice is not worth the squeeze. 1 Quote
Pinecone Posted December 2, 2022 Report Posted December 2, 2022 The old hot versus crazy matrix. 2 Quote
A64Pilot Posted December 3, 2022 Report Posted December 3, 2022 My problem is I’m Retired and can no longer afford a 9, in either catagory. 1 Quote
Will.iam Posted December 3, 2022 Report Posted December 3, 2022 At least a plane is not crazy so you have that going for you. Quote
Pinecone Posted December 3, 2022 Report Posted December 3, 2022 3 hours ago, A64Pilot said: My problem is I’m Retired and can no longer afford a 9, in either catagory. Maybe you can afford to rent one once a year. Quote
Q The Engineer Posted December 4, 2022 Report Posted December 4, 2022 Based on my experience it is. You have to manage IMP, TIT, and CDT. Yep, to get a 6 cylinder the burbles at idle, it's definitely worth it. Quote
Pinecone Posted December 4, 2022 Report Posted December 4, 2022 And the looks you get when hangar flying and comment about the other day while cruising at 17,000. Quote
Fly Boomer Posted December 4, 2022 Report Posted December 4, 2022 17 hours ago, A64Pilot said: My problem is I’m Retired and can no longer afford a 9, in either catagory. Power can push you up the scale for sure, and the most common form of power is money. Quote
Pinecone Posted December 4, 2022 Report Posted December 4, 2022 And people finding out that you own and airplane, think you have lots of money. Which you might, if you didn't own and airplane. 2 Quote
A64Pilot Posted December 4, 2022 Report Posted December 4, 2022 4 hours ago, Fly Boomer said: Power can push you up the scale for sure, and the most common form of power is money. I know, when we were living on the boat if I went through S Fl there was no end to OLD men on their big buck Sportfishermen with two young bikini clad women on his arm. Thing is many had such ego’s they didn’t think they were there for the money. I guess money doesn’t make you smarter 1 Quote
Pinecone Posted December 4, 2022 Report Posted December 4, 2022 4 hours ago, A64Pilot said: I know, when we were living on the boat if I went through S Fl there was no end to OLD men on their big buck Sportfishermen with two young bikini clad women on his arm. Thing is many had such ego’s they didn’t think they were there for the money. I guess money doesn’t make you smarter So true. Bottom line, you pay one way or another. Quote
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