Aveo Engineering Rocker Switches

[aerobat95]

Hey guys...anyone know if these can be used in our airplanes?  I was thinking some panel options and I like the looks of these.

Ray

 

http://www.aveoengineering.com/Aviation/Airplane_Accessories/rocker_switches/RockRackClassic/index.php

[jetdriven]

If they are not PMA or TSO compliant it would be a hard case.  Plus many Mooneys use circuit breaker switches.   

[aerobat95]

interesting....so what do guys do when they rebuild their panels? 

[pjsny78]

These are beautiful. But the price makes me think that they are cheap in quality.

[rorythedog]

I cannot remember where I saw it but I read one time that you could use any type of switch.  I’m not sure why it would be a problem anyway IMHO.  However that circuit breaker point would be harder to accommodate.  The switches are neat and modern looking.

[1964-M20E]

Sorry Rory that was me.

[aerobat95]

So can someone tell me what the deal is with circuit breaker switches?  Why not use a standard switch?

[jetdriven]

A c /b switch is current limiting.  Check your silver switches if there is a number stamped on the end it is a breaker switch.  also, on the 201 the switch had to bolt to the bus bar.  

 

[aerobat95]

so they would protect against a short?  Are there replacements out there?  Or is this a Mooney only part? 

[Piloto]

Quote: jetdriven

If they are not PMA or TSO compliant it would be a hard case.

[Piloto]

Quote: jetdriven

If they are not PMA or TSO compliant it would be a hard case. Plus many Mooneys use circuit breaker switches.

[aerobat95]

its crazy how hard it is to do just about anything on our airplanes......who would have thought there is so much red tape over a simple switch. 

[jetdriven]

Yes, Jose is correct. 2024 T-3 aluminum, correct, has no 8130 form or TSO. But, bu the fact it is 2024 T-3 makes it  "standard part" just like that P/N83282 hydraulic fluid or #2142 landing light you replace the old worn out one with.  Those items conform with with an industry accepted stnadard.  The FAA addressed this issue with an aging aircraft bulletin regarding these very things.  But installing unapproved landing light switches or a seatback DVD player has no data, and is going to be a hard case.  You must have something to stand on if making a case to install something.  What data do you have?

[jetdriven]

DP

[N601RX]

Quote: aerobat95

so they would protect against a short?  Are there replacements out there?  Or is this a Mooney only part? 

[jetdriven]

7724 data says do not use as a switch.  Agh the pains of certified airraft.  They must use certified comonents. however, they have an accident rate of 1/5th to 1/7th of experimentals.  certified parts.

[AndyFromCB]

Quote: pjsny78

These are beautiful. But the price makes me think that they are cheap in quality.

[N601RX]

Quote: jetdriven

7724 data says do not use as a switch.  Agh the pains of certified airraft.  They must use certified comonents. however, they have an accident rate of 1/5th to 1/7th of experimentals.  certified parts.

[jetdriven]

if ypu can prove a same part number you can install is as a standard part.

Quote: astelmaszek

You mean like the switches in my Bravo aka $0.99 cents available from anywhere on the planet or $250.00 from Mooney Company. It's a an effing switch...

[pjsny78]

Quote: astelmaszek

You mean like the switches in my Bravo aka $9.99 cents available from anywhere on the planet or $250.00 from Mooney Company. It's a an effing switch...Yes, I'm sure my Honeywell switch is current limiting, protects me from witches, etc. Yes, I have the part numbers, 15 from Honeywell or 250 from Mooney Company. Same with the voltage regulators....

[AndyFromCB]

jetdrivven,

There is nothing I can do to make you less of Mooney Company fanatic but I guarantee you they do not make their own switches, or voltage regulators or oxygen bottles. All they do is change the part number to start with a 5 or 9. For last 30 years, Mooney Company could not design a blender if they were given a billion dollars from federal government. For the life of me, I do not understand this level of bullshit fanatisism with Mooney or FAA. If your avionics shop followed all the regulations, they could not installl a simple upgraded COM becuase wire is not TSOd.

Bravo voltage regulators are Zeffronics R25400 in a custome encosure.

All switches on Bravo panel are Honeywell switches with custom engrarving.

All 115 cu ft oxygen bottles are done by a Boeing subcontractor, they are also used on a 737.

If you really want to start a war, I'll go back to my spreadsheets and find the exact part numbers. Been there, done that, over my dead body I am paying Mooney $1500 for a voltage regulator if I can just snap a R25400 from Texas for 250 bucks and replace the board.

[AndyFromCB]

The switches are Honeywell AML34FBA4AC01 or AML34EBA4AC01

Oxygen bottles, I do not have a part number of the top of my head, but if you want me to prove my point, I'll post pictures. 

You can't prove a part number when the factory is running  a racket and giving TSO'd part numbers their own numbers like the Airborne stanby vacuum system. On all Cessnas and Beeches it was installed under an Airbore TSO and part number. Only Mooney called it their own.

Same with Scoot oxygen systems.

Maybe when your bird becomes grouned because of their BS you'll realize there is a bit more of aircraft maintenance than following orders.

[AndyFromCB]

Quote: pjsny78

You mean like the switches in my Bravo aka $9.99 cents available from anywhere on the planet or $250.00 from Mooney Company. It's a an effing switch...Yes, I'm sure my Honeywell switch is current limiting, protects me from witches, etc. Yes, I have the part numbers, 15 from Honeywell or 250 from Mooney Company. Same with the voltage regulators....

[aerobat95]

I didn't want to start any arguements....I just wanted to find out how I can go about updating my panel some. Basically I would like to have all my switches in the same place. As it is now I have my Master on the bottom left near the pilot knee, then I have the Avionics Master on the bottom right side....so what I was thinking was putting them all along the top.

[aerobat95]

I didn't want to start any arguements....I just wanted to find out how I can go about updating my panel some. Basically I would like to have all my switches in the same place. As it is now I have my Master on the bottom left near the pilot knee, then I have the Avionics Master on the bottom right side....so what I was thinking was putting them all along the top.