FloridaMan Posted November 15, 2021 Report Share Posted November 15, 2021 https://www.fox13news.com/news/small-plane-winds-up-in-water-off-davis-islands Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadrach Posted November 15, 2021 Report Share Posted November 15, 2021 That’s weird. The submerged plane in the photo surely looks like a short body but the only Mooney in that vicinity this morning was a TLS. Track stops right around the ditch area with a final pressure altitude of -200ft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragsf15e Posted November 15, 2021 Report Share Posted November 15, 2021 Not very deep. That thing is gonna be recovered! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tls pilot Posted November 16, 2021 Report Share Posted November 16, 2021 Plane is a Bravo N21890 see current report and pics of it getting hosted out of the bay https://www.wtsp.com/article/news/local/hillsboroughcounty/davis-islands-plane-goes-down/67-384e0f47-bedb-4c2d-827b-199b8bb94799 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
201Steve Posted November 16, 2021 Report Share Posted November 16, 2021 Wow. I was flying to Zephyrhills today and heard the back end of a transmission that left me scratching my head: Unknown A/C: “a sea plane picked him up” ATC: That’s great news. Now I understand! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MooneyMitch Posted November 16, 2021 Report Share Posted November 16, 2021 7 hours ago, Shadrach said: That’s weird. The submerged plane in the photo surely looks like a short body but the only Mooney in that vicinity this morning was a TLS. Some things look smaller under water .....especially when water is cold . 2 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MooneyMitch Posted November 16, 2021 Report Share Posted November 16, 2021 Just watched recovery video....... there goes that fuselage skin ..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtVandelay Posted November 16, 2021 Report Share Posted November 16, 2021 Fully submerged, salt water, crumpled...I think that is what the insurance company calls "scrap metal"Can’t even salvage the avionics…iPhone should still work! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadrach Posted November 16, 2021 Report Share Posted November 16, 2021 4 hours ago, MooneyMitch said: Some things look smaller under water .....especially when water is cold . 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LANCECASPER Posted November 16, 2021 Report Share Posted November 16, 2021 What I don't get on this one is that the news reports say he took off from Lakeland on the way to Gainesville, was having engine trouble so went all the way to Tampa (his home base?)? There were a lot of places to land in between and figure it out. I remember flying 20+ years ago from Georgia back to Texas with a friend, and the engine stumbled a little. He was a mechanic and I said, "What do you think?". He said. "I think I see an airport, that's what I think." It was good we landed. We landed at Peachtree DeKalb, spent the night and figured it out the next day. One mag failed. The lesson I took away that day is that I would rather be wrong and make a precautionary landing than be wrong when I continued on. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradp Posted November 16, 2021 Report Share Posted November 16, 2021 Isn’t there a big old engine shop at Zephyrillis ? If … if this is the decision it is beyond dumb in terms of ADM. Glad nobody got killed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aviatoreb Posted November 16, 2021 Report Share Posted November 16, 2021 Weird - my wife and mother in law were at the Tampa beach maybe 5 years ago and they saw a small experimental biplane single seater land in the water right there just off the beach and sink in maybe 10 ft of water. No injuries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MooneyMitch Posted November 16, 2021 Report Share Posted November 16, 2021 3 hours ago, Shadrach said: Ah, shrinkage! That episode is exactly what triggered my comment.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbridges Posted November 16, 2021 Report Share Posted November 16, 2021 3 hours ago, Shadrach said: That's exactly what came to my mind, too! Good ole George. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtVandelay Posted November 16, 2021 Report Share Posted November 16, 2021 Isn’t there a big old engine shop at Zephyrillis ? If … if this is the decision it is beyond dumb in terms of ADM. Glad nobody got killed. He didn’t have a problem till well past Zephyrhills, and when he was descending he had plenty of speed (2x best glide), FWIW.Looks like he was heading to one of the other Tampa airports, the flight north was probably just waiting for class Bravo clearance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradp Posted November 16, 2021 Report Share Posted November 16, 2021 20 minutes ago, ArtVandelay said: He didn’t have a problem till well past Zephyrhills, and when he was descending he had plenty of speed (2x best glide), FWIW. Looks like he was heading to one of the other Tampa airports, the flight north was probably just waiting for class Bravo clearance. Thanks Art - of course all conjecture at this point. The reason I jumped on that was that there was an apparent diversion from the ori destination Gainesville, reported for “engine problems” and the aircraft appears to have passed by at least a couple of options. That “Land as soon as practicable” quote in the POH… A lot of these engines are going to be rife with mechanical issues after periods of relative under utilization during all the lockdowns. My plane with a blown up lifter is a good cautionary example. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LANCECASPER Posted November 17, 2021 Report Share Posted November 17, 2021 8 hours ago, GEE-BEE AEROPRODUCTS said: I have no trust in tcm engines , for the value of myself and family is why I fly a turbine . After forty years, the quality is crap GB This one was a Lycoming 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloridaMan Posted November 17, 2021 Author Report Share Posted November 17, 2021 9 hours ago, ArtVandelay said: He didn’t have a problem till well past Zephyrhills, and when he was descending he had plenty of speed (2x best glide), FWIW. Looks like he was heading to one of the other Tampa airports, the flight north was probably just waiting for class Bravo clearance. I frequently would fly between TPF and LAL. Generally I go up to 3500ft off of LAL and then have a gradual cruise descent to get under the bravo. A lot of pilots have complained about the 1200ft ceiling covering tampa bay for the lack of safety. The good news is that the tampa controllers almost always will give you bravo clearance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LANCECASPER Posted November 17, 2021 Report Share Posted November 17, 2021 https://www.avweb.com/aviation-news/icon-a5-serves-well-as-a-rescue-plane-for-ditched-mooney-in-florida/?MailingID=771&utm_source=ActiveCampaign&utm_medium=email&utm_content=Icon+A5+Rescue+Mission%2C+SNF+CEO+to+Retire&utm_campaign=Icon+A5+Rescue+Mission%2C+SNF+CEO+to+Retire+-+Wednesday%2C+November+17%2C+2021 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MooneyMitch Posted November 17, 2021 Report Share Posted November 17, 2021 Oooooh, that’s a really good story of the rescue. I love hearing about good stuff like this!! Thank you for sharing 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesm Posted November 18, 2021 Report Share Posted November 18, 2021 so is this same accident as previously posted ? https://www.yahoo.com/news/police-video-shows-dramatic-water-163529350.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DXB Posted November 18, 2021 Report Share Posted November 18, 2021 14 hours ago, LANCECASPER said: https://www.avweb.com/aviation-news/icon-a5-serves-well-as-a-rescue-plane-for-ditched-mooney-in-florida/?MailingID=771&utm_source=ActiveCampaign&utm_medium=email&utm_content=Icon+A5+Rescue+Mission%2C+SNF+CEO+to+Retire&utm_campaign=Icon+A5+Rescue+Mission%2C+SNF+CEO+to+Retire+-+Wednesday%2C+November+17%2C+2021 Great job Ms. Genesah Duffy! And its nice to see the Icon A5 get some positive press - I thought that was a super cool and innovatively safe design that almost got tanked by the company selling to the reckless idiot market. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MooneyMitch Posted November 18, 2021 Report Share Posted November 18, 2021 57 minutes ago, DXB said: Great job Ms. Genesah Duffy! And its nice to see the Icon A5 get some positive press - I thought that was a super cool and innovatively safe design that almost got tanked by the company selling to the reckless idiot market. Fortunately, for businesses that sell all sorts of things, the world is full of reckless idiots ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Junkin Posted December 17, 2021 Report Share Posted December 17, 2021 Here's an AOPA "There I was..." podcast interview with the pilot, Lynn McNorton, and Ganesha Duffy that gives the first person story. Some good lessons (re)learned and a great story of keeping your cool and executing in a stress environment. It's Episode #42. https://www.aopa.org/news-and-media/podcasts/podcasts/there-i-was?utm_source=epilot&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=asi+products Cheers, Rick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian E. Posted December 18, 2021 Report Share Posted December 18, 2021 Link to the same story on the AOPA There I was podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/es/podcast/episode-42-genesah-duffy-and-lynn-mcnorton/id1240482999?i=1000545059954 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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