Helicopter delays Space X launch

[Jim Peace]

I wonder who the bonehead was that flew into the restricted area for the space x launch....

They post those restricted areas a week or more in advance.

anyway to find out who it was?

 

[MooneyMitch]

Grrrrrrr !  

[ArtVandelay]

In their defense, they had a strange long runway like TFR that they never had before:

 

[Jim Peace]

Wow I had not seen that TFR. Usually just the one over the cape. Is that really what they laid out?  How soon before launch did they do that?

looks like an ax. 

[A64Pilot]

Did you see the one at Miami yesterday for Biden? must have been 60 NM across. What are they trying to prevent?

Yeah I know, but think about it for a sec, it’s sort of like posting a no-gun area, do you think posting that will make the criminal not carry one? 

Does anyone think a TFR would keep a bad guy out?

[rbridges]

5 hours ago, A64Pilot said:

Did you see the one at Miami yesterday for Biden? must have been 60 NM across. What are they trying to prevent?

Yeah I know, but think about it for a sec, it’s sort of like posting a no-gun area, do you think posting that will make the criminal not carry one? 

Does anyone think a TFR would keep a bad guy out?

I don't want this to turn political, but I was getting a concealed carry permit for my son. We were looking at states with reciprocity with Georgia, and Illinois is not one of them. I told him Chicago has strict gun laws which is ironic given the gun violence it has. So yeah, I see your point. 

[A64Pilot]

I think that most large cities have high crime rates, weapon restrictions seem to follow closely with crime rate.

And again without getting political, regulations or making stuff illegal does not seem to effect the use or availability of a product, take the war on drugs for example I don’t think any still believe it’s been effective. 

I think by using weapons and drugs, I’ve covered both parties, so this isn’t a political rant I promise you.

 

I forget where I saw it, but one guy said I wish hot chicks were illegal, if they were then there would be one every corner trying to give herself away.

 

Right after 911, every Ag pilot had to go to the FSDO and be interviewed, Lord knows why, what is a FSDO inspector supposed to do? Did they get law enforcement training or something?  Boy did I ever hear stories about that. Jim Bob from Adel Ga takes his Wife with him, she isn’t allowed even in the parking lot, he has to leave his truck with his Wife in it  in a high crime area, because you know I guess he could have a bomb in the truck, or his Wife could be a terrorist Great Grandma or something.

Speaking about the FSDO, MIDO, ACO, whatever, anybody been there lately? Honest to God easier to get into a secure Military facility, does someone think a criminal is going to steal something? Take the FSDO hostage?

About the same time, Homeland security I believe demanded that all aircraft be fitted with a hidden ignition switch, and the location was not to be recorded in the logbook.

Well we know how long that lasted, I’m still waiting on the pilots license with my picture on it that also was given something like 90 days to implement.

‘Lord knows how much money was spent on putting miles of fencing around nearly every airport and many were given Humvee’s to patrol the fence, airports were required to be secured and no visitors allowed, gates with security codes etc.

‘Why? did someone think a terrorist was going to steal a 152 and do what with it?

I know one consequence, as a kid many would hang out at the airport and help wash airplanes, we often got rides doing that, now no one is allowed on the airport grounds, and I learned the other day you can’t wash airplanes either? But locking the kids out is not doing aviation any good, and neither is all these security gates and fences. The kids that used to hang out at the airport are gone, the public is locked out, and that’s not good.

Sorry about the rambling, but I’d hope at some time we start to return to logic and realize that 99% of the people are good and stop punishing the good for the sins of the 1%.

Because the 1% aren’t going to obey any law you pass, that’s what makes them the way they are.

But there has been a few instances of attempts of using a private single engine airplane to be a missile, and all that happened was the idiot pilot was killed, someone flew something into the White House some years ago, and someone flew something into an IRS building if I remember correctly. Our little airplanes just aren’t the danger some seem to think.

on edit, I looked it up, the guy with the IRS crash did kill one and did some damage, but nothing compared to Oklahoma City

Edited July 2, 2021 by A64Pilot

[MooneyMitch]

24 minutes ago, A64Pilot said:

I think that most large cities have high crime rates, weapon restrictions seem to follow closely with crime rate.

And again without getting political, regulations or making stuff illegal does not seem to effect the use or availability of a product, take the war on drugs for example I don’t think any still believe it’s been effective. 

I think by using weapons and drugs, I’ve covered both parties, so this isn’t a political rant I promise you.

 

I forget where I saw it, but one guy said I wish hot chicks were illegal, if they were then there would be one every corner trying to give herself away.

 

Right after 911, every Ag pilot had to go to the FSDO and be interviewed, Lord knows why, what is a FSDO inspector supposed to do? Did they get law enforcement training or something?  Boy did I ever hear stories about that. Jim Bob from Adel Ga takes his Wife with him, she isn’t allowed even in the parking lot, he has to leave his truck with his Wife in it  in a high crime area, because you know I guess he could have a bomb in the truck, or his Wife could be a terrorist Great Grandma or something.

Speaking about the FSDO, MIDO, ACO, whatever, anybody been there lately? Honest to God easier to get into a secure Military facility, does someone think a criminal is going to steal something? Take the FSDO hostage?

About the same time, Homeland security I believe demanded that all aircraft be fitted with a hidden ignition switch, and the location was not to be recorded in the logbook.

Well we know how long that lasted, I’m still waiting on the pilots license with my picture on it that also was given something like 90 days to implement.

‘Lord knows how much money was spent on putting miles of fencing around nearly every airport and many were given Humvee’s to patrol the fence, airports were required to be secured and no visitors allowed, gates with security codes etc.

‘Why? did someone think a terrorist was going to steal a 152 and do what with it?

I know one consequence, as a kid many would hang out at the airport and help wash airplanes, we often got rides doing that, now no one is allowed on the airport grounds, and I learned the other day you can’t wash airplanes either? But locking the kids out is not doing aviation any good, and neither is all these security gates and fences. The kids that used to hang out at the airport are gone, the public is locked out, and that’s not good.

Sorry about the rambling, but I’d hope at some time we start to return to logic and realize that 99% of the people are good and stop punishing the good for the sins of the 1%.

Because the 1% aren’t going to obey any law you pass, that’s what makes them the way they are.

But there has been a few instances of attempts of using a private single engine airplane to be a missile, and all that happened was the idiot pilot was killed, someone flew something into the White House some years ago, and someone flew something into an IRS building if I remember correctly. Our little airplanes just aren’t the danger some seem to think.

on edit, I looked it up, the guy with the IRS crash did kill one and did some damage, but nothing compared to Oklahoma City

All so tragically pathetic. Curtailing so much goodness and positivity and freedoms. 

[Eight8Victor]

1 hour ago, MooneyMitch said:

All so tragically pathetic. Curtailing so much goodness and positivity and freedoms. 

And it’s all by design my friend, decades in the making.