marcusku Posted October 3, 2020 Report Posted October 3, 2020 I'm taking my commercial check ride soon and I'd like to make sure I know enough about the airplane. Picture #1, I believe are Comm and Nav, which one is which? Picture #2, there is one on each side of the front gear door, is that an antenna? Picture #3, I'm not to sure what that is for, I know the two GPS looking antennas on top are for the GPS and Aspen. Also, the two flat things on the upper part of the tail, is that for airflow? Thanks! Quote
Guest Posted October 3, 2020 Report Posted October 3, 2020 Top antenna pair are Comm, blades or whiskers on the fin are nav/ glideslope, blades on the belly are transponder/ DME, #3 looks like Insight strike finder. Clarence Quote
carusoam Posted October 3, 2020 Report Posted October 3, 2020 Get a good look at the nav antennas on the tail... If you get a simple question about why they are there and how they can go wrong... In the history of these antenna locations.... they are positioned the best to avoid the wing from blanketing their reception... It would be hard to follow the ILS if blanketing would always occur... All the antennas get similar consideration when their locations got selected... Often, some MSers have a com antenna mounted on the belly... you may find one radio to work better while on the ground... Some antennas may be hidden... under fiberglass wing tips or the faring in front of the tail... Some VORs and the ELT are hiding this way... The fiberglass cowls and top of the instrument panel are know hiding places for some antennas as well... PP thoughts only, not a CFII... Best regards, -a- Quote
N201MKTurbo Posted October 3, 2020 Report Posted October 3, 2020 The one on the belly could be an ADF if you still have one or if they didn’t remove the antenna. 1 Quote
carusoam Posted October 3, 2020 Report Posted October 3, 2020 It might be good to post a pic of the instrument panel... Some radios you are thinking about may not get mentioned by MSers not familiar with your plane... A semi-modern King ADF is a square plate looking device, but will be noticeable by its King logo right on it... For every box on the panel, there will be a matching antenna or two... a new radio, may have GPS, VOR, and ILS antennas... Best regards, -a- Quote
marcusku Posted October 3, 2020 Author Report Posted October 3, 2020 I don't have an ADF but do have a lightning strike detector. Maybe that's the antenna on the belly? 1 Quote
ArtVandelay Posted October 3, 2020 Report Posted October 3, 2020 I don't have an ADF but do have a lightning strike detector. Maybe that's the antenna on the belly?Yes, and if you don’t have antennas on your vertical stabilizer, then your VOR antennas are in the wingtips.Tom Quote
Guest Posted October 3, 2020 Report Posted October 3, 2020 2 hours ago, ArtVandelay said: Yes, and if you don’t have antennas on your vertical stabilizer, then your VOR antennas are in the wingtips. Tom He mentions 2 flat things at the top of the fin, blade style VOR antennas is my guess. Clarence Quote
buddy Posted October 4, 2020 Report Posted October 4, 2020 Number 3 is your lighting strike detector antenna. Quote
OR75 Posted October 5, 2020 Report Posted October 5, 2020 if you have two small blade antennas in the belly they may be for: transponder or DME or ADB-in you may get questions on engine accessories / ignition and electrical systems Quote
David Lloyd Posted October 5, 2020 Report Posted October 5, 2020 The transponder, DME or ADSB-in antennas could also be the little post and ball variety easily broken when trying to clean the underside of the plane with a long handled brush. Quote
mikefox Posted October 6, 2020 Report Posted October 6, 2020 Great questions! The antennas in #1 are COMM 1 and COMM 2. Antenna #2 is transponder or DME - they are both small blade antennas like that. #3 is definitely strike finder. If ever in doubt, the length of the antenna is inversely proportional to the frequency - that's why DME is smaller than COMM, for instance! 1 Quote
marcusku Posted October 7, 2020 Author Report Posted October 7, 2020 Thanks for everyone's help! Wouldn't you know the examiner didn't even ask me about the antennas, but it's good to know anyway. I did survive my checkride, sure nice to have that one in the rear view mirror! 3 Quote
The Other Red Baron Posted October 7, 2020 Report Posted October 7, 2020 Congratulations! I’m hoping to finish mine soon. How were your maneuvers? Quote
gsxrpilot Posted October 7, 2020 Report Posted October 7, 2020 Congrats! I'm glad to have that one behind me as well. 1 Quote
marcusku Posted October 8, 2020 Author Report Posted October 8, 2020 On 10/7/2020 at 2:31 PM, The Other Red Baron said: Congratulations! I’m hoping to finish mine soon. How were your maneuvers? Thanks! Overall not bad, the two things that could have been better: Steep turns, which normally go well, I lost airspeed during the maneuver and even chirped the stall warning. I wasn't paying attention to airspeed, normally I set 2400 and 17-18" and it works out fine. My examiner was heavier than what I'm used to and maybe I had a little more fuel on board than typical but I needed a higher power setting. I told him this power setting is what has worked in the past and he told me that it couldn't. I wanted to say that the problem was the extra weight in the airplane but didn't argue with him. Somehow I missed that you are supposed to have the wind perpendicular to eights on pile ons. I compensated for the wind during the maneuver but didn't realize you are supposed to set it up that way. My lazy 8's and could have been smoother but they did the job apparently. 1 Quote
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