HRM Posted February 19, 2020 Report Posted February 19, 2020 Air Mods One Piece Belly Pan for M20. I believe this fits the entire M20 (vintage series) with the cluster of inspection panels. This is the one with skids, presumably to protect the belly on gear-up. Pan can be repaired to a point. Good for after you have had a GU, as a prophylactic against GU damage and as a faster way to open the belly, although this has been argued. Anyway, $500. PM with email if interested and I can send docs/photos. Quote
Bob_Belville Posted February 19, 2020 Report Posted February 19, 2020 I did a gear up with this 1 piece belly installed by a PO in 1997. It worked very well to minimize damage. New ELT antenna, tail pipe (PFS extends more than stock muffler which might not have scraped pavement), and build up skids with FG. Installation labor to convert will be significant. Quote
HRM Posted February 19, 2020 Author Report Posted February 19, 2020 1 minute ago, Bob_Belville said: I did a gear up with this 1 piece belly installed by a PO in 1997. It worked very well to minimize damage. New ELT antenna, tail pipe (PFS extends more than stock muffler which might not have scraped pavement), and build up skids with FG. Installation labor to convert will be significant. Thanks for the endorsement Bob, and yes, install is non-trivial. Probably the best time to do it is after the GU Quote
HRM Posted February 19, 2020 Author Report Posted February 19, 2020 9 minutes ago, wcb said: Any speed increase???? At least 50 KTS Seriously, no data. Bob may have an opinion. 1 1 Quote
orionflt Posted February 19, 2020 Report Posted February 19, 2020 19 minutes ago, wcb said: Any speed increase???? 4 minutes ago, HRM said: At least 50 KTS Seriously, no data. Bob may have an opinion. LOL, I wish!!! not much of an increase, more of a convenience of getting into the belly easier. Quote
N201MKTurbo Posted February 19, 2020 Report Posted February 19, 2020 I have a laser one piece belly. It came with the plane. I kind of like it. If I got another Mooney, I wouldn't put it on. Quote
ArtVandelay Posted February 19, 2020 Report Posted February 19, 2020 I have a laser one piece belly. It came with the plane. I kind of like it. If I got another Mooney, I wouldn't put it on. So do I but why is it a difficult mod? Seems like you just install a few camloc receptacles? Quote
HRM Posted February 19, 2020 Author Report Posted February 19, 2020 1 minute ago, ArtVandelay said: So do I but why is it a difficult mod? Seems like you just install a few camloc receptacles? See attached. There's <gasp> riveting involved.Aero Mods Install instructions - Copy.pdf Quote
HRM Posted February 19, 2020 Author Report Posted February 19, 2020 26 minutes ago, orionflt said: OL, I wish!!! not much of an increase, more of a convenience of getting into the belly easier. In the interest of full disclosure, this feature has also been debated. Having pulled those panels personally during annual, I would argue that it HAS to be better, regardless of how you pull it on and off. Frankly, putting those fool panels back takes twice as long as pulling them off. Quote
RLCarter Posted February 19, 2020 Report Posted February 19, 2020 @HRM where is it located? Freight could be fairly high if going across country and is crated ? Quote
wcb Posted February 19, 2020 Report Posted February 19, 2020 Lasar claims a speed increase if you bury some antennas or upto 6mph?????? Is that really possible???? Quote
N201MKTurbo Posted February 19, 2020 Report Posted February 19, 2020 26 minutes ago, ArtVandelay said: So do I but why is it a difficult mod? Seems like you just install a few camloc receptacles? Quite a few camloc receptacles. I didn't install mine, but it looks like some of the center ones require welding tabs on the steel tubing. Quote
RLCarter Posted February 19, 2020 Report Posted February 19, 2020 Install doc says for a “J”, didn’t see any welding but didn’t read the whole doc Quote
ArtVandelay Posted February 19, 2020 Report Posted February 19, 2020 Lasar claims a speed increase if you bury some antennas or upto 6mph?????? Is that really possible???? I have 19mph worth of speed mods, I still only make book speed. 2 2 Quote
HRM Posted February 19, 2020 Author Report Posted February 19, 2020 1 hour ago, RLCarter said: @HRM where is it located? Freight could be fairly high if going across country and is crated ? Beaumont, TX (right off I-10). 25 minutes ago, ArtVandelay said: I have 19mph worth of speed mods, I still only make book speed. Yep, speed increase, if any, will be in the µKTS 45 minutes ago, RLCarter said: Install doc says for a “J”, didn’t see any welding but didn’t read the whole doc I thought it was just riveting; of course, a review by an A&P prior to purchase would not be a bad idea. 1 Quote
HRM Posted February 19, 2020 Author Report Posted February 19, 2020 ALERT! Fellow Mooniacs, The One-Piece-Belly I have for sale is for a Short Body (C/D/E) Mooney. Sorry for any confusion. Quote
HRM Posted February 21, 2020 Author Report Posted February 21, 2020 On 2/19/2020 at 3:11 PM, wcb said: Lasar claims a speed increase if you bury some antennas or upto 6mph?????? Is that really possible???? The LASAR panel is baby butt smooth while the Air Mods has a pair of skids that help protect the underbelly in the event of GU. Since the panel is fiberglas, buried antennas should work fine. Not to skunk my sale, but the best time to do a one-piece is just after GU or the first year you decide to start owner-assisted annuals. Quote
GDGR Posted February 22, 2020 Report Posted February 22, 2020 On 2/19/2020 at 3:02 PM, ArtVandelay said: I have 19mph worth of speed mods, I still only make book speed. You must’ve put half of them on backwards 1 2 Quote
HRM Posted February 25, 2020 Author Report Posted February 25, 2020 Sold. Thanks for all the fish! Quote
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