Yetti Posted February 12, 2019 Report Share Posted February 12, 2019 So what do you do when your CFI always has a Contrarian Attitude? I looked for guidance from the FAA, but could not find appropriate responses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobertGary1 Posted February 12, 2019 Report Share Posted February 12, 2019 May just not be a good personality match for you. Is it difficult to just get a different CFI? -Robert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaylw314 Posted February 12, 2019 Report Share Posted February 12, 2019 If your CFI always has a contrarian attitude, the first question is to ask yourself if you're the one with the contrarian attitude 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtVandelay Posted February 12, 2019 Report Share Posted February 12, 2019 Always?!I’ve disagreed on occasion but...not always.Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsxrpilot Posted February 12, 2019 Report Share Posted February 12, 2019 Fire him. The CFI works for me, not the other way around. When I decided to start learning to fly. I went looking for an agreeable CFI. I interviewed five different CFI's. I flew with two of them. I told them it was a trial lesson that I was paying for and I would make a final decision after. I settled on one and used him all the way through the Private, Instrument, transition training for my Mooney, flight reviews, etc. until he finally retired and hung it up. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLCarter Posted February 12, 2019 Report Share Posted February 12, 2019 @gsxrpilot I agree, my CFII I've used for the past 12 years is now a DPE and stays really busy and away from the area. Spent the last 2+ years looking (not real hard) for a CFI to finish up my Commercial been through 5, 2 I really liked but the airlines liked them more....... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thinwing Posted February 12, 2019 Report Share Posted February 12, 2019 2 hours ago, Yetti said: So what do you do when your CFI always has a Contrarian Attitude? I looked for guidance from the FAA, but could not find appropriate responses. What is actually a contrarian attitude?Do you mean he is just a jerk?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midlifeflyer Posted February 12, 2019 Report Share Posted February 12, 2019 23 minutes ago, thinwing said: What is actually a contrarian attitude?Do you mean he is just a jerk?. I don't know what it means either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thinwing Posted February 12, 2019 Report Share Posted February 12, 2019 Maybe yetti ment his CFI voted for the other guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LANCECASPER Posted February 12, 2019 Report Share Posted February 12, 2019 11 minutes ago, midlifeflyer said: I don't know what it means either. https://www.dictionary.com/browse/contrarian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midlifeflyer Posted February 12, 2019 Report Share Posted February 12, 2019 2 hours ago, LANCECASPER said: https://www.dictionary.com/browse/contrarian Sigh. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danb Posted February 12, 2019 Report Share Posted February 12, 2019 If he’s actually a contrarian opposing something just for an argument, we’re done let him ruin another guys day, he must be fun at thanksgiving dinner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLCarter Posted February 12, 2019 Report Share Posted February 12, 2019 37 minutes ago, Danb said: If he’s actually a contrarian opposing something just for an argument, we’re done let him ruin another guys day, he must be fun at thanksgiving dinner If he gets invited 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steingar Posted February 12, 2019 Report Share Posted February 12, 2019 If'n you don' like him or her hire someone else. Like the man said, these guys are our employees. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skydvrboy Posted February 12, 2019 Report Share Posted February 12, 2019 I had a contrarian CFI. He insisted that climbs needed to be done at 2600/26, in no case was I ever to put the engine in an "over squared" configuration, and thought that lean of peak blow up an engine in a hurry. CFI's are hard to find around here so I kept bringing him articles that debunked those. Fortunately, he was open minded enough to realize they may be on to something. In an area with more CFI's available, I would have just moved on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m20kmooney Posted February 12, 2019 Report Share Posted February 12, 2019 (edited) Respect him/her for being a CFI. Even though you may not agree both sides can always learn from each other. Popular belief or opinion isn’t always correct. Edited February 12, 2019 by m20kmooney 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thinwing Posted February 12, 2019 Report Share Posted February 12, 2019 2 hours ago, m20kmooney said: Respect him/her for being a CFI. Even though you may not agree both sides can always learn from each other. Popular belief or opinion isn’t always correct. A nice thought ,but in a training environment student to instructor ,a lot to ask...I tend to agree with gsxr unless he is the last CFI on the planet 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kortopates Posted February 12, 2019 Report Share Posted February 12, 2019 I am not feeling a lot of respect for my brethren here But its very saddening to read there are instructors out there like @skydvrboy has had to endure. That's certainly a very legitimate complaint and not that many instructors know much about engine management but I wonder what are some of the others complaints you folks have. Hopefully its not arguing about what the ACS standards are these days. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skydvrboy Posted February 12, 2019 Report Share Posted February 12, 2019 @kortopates Don't get me wrong, I still think he was/is a great instructor. He has a tremendous wealth of experience as a Wright Brothers Master Pilot who grew up on an airport and has been flying ever since. He even owned an F until 2000, so he knew my plane inside and out. He was just stuck in what he had learned many years ago and viewed me as the know-nothing new kid. We get along well now and fly together a couple times a year as friends. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marauder Posted February 12, 2019 Report Share Posted February 12, 2019 The instructor types I will never tolerate is a screamer or one that belittles a student. I’ve been fortunate that I have had neither (Though I did have a know it all). I have spoken to pilots who have had really bad instructors and yet they still come back for more. I think the attribute of a good instructor is the ability to adapt their style to accommodate the learning style of the student. Some people are visual learners, others need verbal instruction. Others need a combination of both. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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