alun Posted March 31, 2009 Report Posted March 31, 2009 hi, i can't seem to find any tie downs on my m20j. i heard that the previous owner might have taken them off. are they hidden somewhere thats not so obvious and if i am just looking baddly and they have been removed where can i get replacements? thanks! alun. Quote
KSMooniac Posted March 31, 2009 Report Posted March 31, 2009 They screw into a threaded attachment outboard of the gear doors about halfway back from the LE of the wing. If yours are missing (check the hat rack area...perhaps they are loose there) then I'd recommend a set from LASAR that includes the jack-point & tie-down ring together. Quote
The-sky-captain Posted March 31, 2009 Report Posted March 31, 2009 They are in plain sight under the wind, just a small eyelet to run a rope through like any other plane. (My photo gallery shows me tying down... maybe the pic will help). The POH does say that they can be removed and interchanged with mounts to jack your plane with. As far as finding a new set maybe start by talking to a MSC... Quote
TurboExec Posted March 31, 2009 Report Posted March 31, 2009 interesting, I've never removed mine before flight....I wonder what it is worth haha 1 knot!!! Quote
Auburn02 Posted March 31, 2009 Report Posted March 31, 2009 Quote: TurboExec interesting, I've never removed mine before flight....I wonder what it is worth haha 1 knot!!! Quote
alun Posted March 31, 2009 Author Report Posted March 31, 2009 ah well i have jack points!! probably just left them on.... Quote
GeorgePerry Posted March 31, 2009 Report Posted March 31, 2009 Quote: KSMooniac They screw into a threaded attachment outboard of the gear doors about halfway back from the LE of the wing. If yours are missing (check the hat rack area...perhaps they are loose there) then I'd recommend a set from LASAR that includes the jack-point & tie-down ring together. Quote
DonMuncy Posted March 31, 2009 Report Posted March 31, 2009 I recently flew with a friend who does some aerobatics. He tells me that they always remove thier tie downs before flight lest they come off during flight and hit another plane. This appears to be a solution looking for a problem. I have never had one come off, have never heard of anyone saying one came off, or read any accident report mentioning that one came off. I have read the previous threads about removing them for flight but (until the one mentioned above) never knew of anyone who removed theirs for any reason other than to install jack points. Does anyone else remove theirs. Don Quote
Cruiser Posted March 31, 2009 Report Posted March 31, 2009 when I picked up my plane. the tie downs were in a bag on the hat rack. They are still there. I only put them in when needed. Quote
fantom Posted April 2, 2009 Report Posted April 2, 2009 I use my tie down ring to ground the plane while refueling. Beats wearing a hole in the expensive exhaust pipe. Quote
triple8s Posted April 3, 2009 Report Posted April 3, 2009 I stopped to get some fuel one time and a stranger walked by my plane and said " Do you know that plane isnt airworthy?" I said what do you mean? he said that the plane wasnt airworthy with the tiedown rings left in place and they were to be removed before flight. I just ignored him and went on about my business. Why should they be taken out everytime? If they had been screwed in and out everytime since 1965 I guarantee there'd be no threads left by now. Quote
KSMooniac Posted April 3, 2009 Report Posted April 3, 2009 I believe there is some verbiage in the POH that specifies that the rings should be removed for flight. Silly, but it is in there. Quote
alun Posted April 5, 2009 Author Report Posted April 5, 2009 i found this which seems to indicate that tie downs should be removed in flight: http://india.www.poweredbyu.com/mooney/images/pdfs/si-pdf/m20-114.pdf Quote
Mooney_Allegro Posted April 7, 2009 Report Posted April 7, 2009 Interesting service bulletin above. I've never removed mine, except I've seen them removed at annual time. I frequently overnight at different airports, and really doubt a lot of people will follow those instructions. Jim, I do remember that on the MAPA list some time ago, it really got into a heated discussion on this topic. I'll check my POH and see if it states to remove the tie down rings. Quote
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