F model on Aero Trader

[Mcstealth]

What sayeth about this plane.

http://www.aerotrader.com/find/listing/1976-MOONEY-M-20F-93196257

 

As some of you know I have been posting on the AOPA board different Mooney's for opinions and advice.

 

Thanks in advance.

McStealth

[GeorgePerry]

According to the ad "A Cruise of 150 Knots at 9.5 Gallons per hour!!"

This must be a super F - not subject to the laws of physics like the every other Mooney that’s ever been built.  No way will this thing do 150 kts on 9.5 gal/hr.  F cowl and F windshield...Maybe with 10 knot tail wind in a descent....and then only maybe.

 

[TurboExec]

Way over priced....I'm asking a few grand less and mine is comparable except for the turbo.

As for the speed, I'd give him 145kts on 9.5gph...150 is stretching.  3-blade props have been know to cause vibration issues in F models.  It says the interior is only a 6+....Like I said I think it is over priced by at least $10K

[GeorgePerry]

I agree with all your points. 

My F does 140-145 kts all day long...@ about 9.5-10.5 depending on altitude, prop and MP settings.  I don't have alot of gap seals or a 201 windshield or cowl.

The previous owner of my F put a 3 blader on, and acutally removed it some months later because of the strange harmonic/vibration that the airplane had.  He's the 3rd or 4th F owner to go back to a 2 bladed prop that I know of.  I'f I were looking at this plane, I'd definitely want a ride in a 2 bladed F to compare with prior to test flight.  The test flight should be really comprehensive to see if the vibration occurs...otherwise swapping props back to a 2 blade is going to be expensive ($8Kish with trade in, new prop, and labor)

The G430, Stec and JPI are nice, but a Narco Xponder and boat anchor collins radio aren't worth thier total wt in dollars...if anything it detracts from the value.

A " 6" for the interior might be a bit generous.  I just had mine interior professionally re-done @ a cost of $7500.  This one's going to need it soon.

Based on market conditions and "IF" the prop vibration isn't an issue on this particular bird I'd say $69-70K is about right... If the thing vibrates, $65k tops.

[Greg_D]

George, I'd like to see some photos of your plane if you don't mind sharing them.

There's a guy selling an F model on Ebay right now.  He claims it's faster than a J model.  I think he arrived at that claim by adding up all of supposed speed gains from the mods that have been installed on the plane.  And he wants $65K for it with "Buy it Now".  I doubt he'll get anywhere close to that since it has very basic avionics and a Flybuddy GPS.

Edit:  I just got an email from the seller.  He claims this M20F trues out at 170 knots at 65% power.

[GeorgePerry]

It seemes when folks are "selling", thier planes capible to leaping over tall buildings etc, etc.....If they were really that great they wouldn't let them go:-)

[M20BE]

Quote: Greg_D

Edit:  I just got an email from the seller.  He claims this M20F trues out at 170 knots at 65% power.

[Mcstealth]

That's the one IO want. The 170kts one!!!!!!!!!!!!

he he he

 

McStealth