Mooney down NJ

[Jim Peace]

https://www.google.com/amp/www.nj.com/articles/19352597/2_killed_in_plane_crash_at_sky_manor_airport_polic.amp?client=safari

 

totally sucks 

Edited September 25, 2016 by Jim Peace

[Hank]

Man, that sucks! Came in hot, tried a go around then sounds like a stall . . .

NJMP, please check in!!

[Alan Fox]

I hope its no one I have met ...

[PTK]

May they rest in peace. Prayers for the ones they leave behind.

 

[201er]

15 minutes ago, Alan Fox said:

I hope its no one I have met ...

How does that matter? Really sad either way.

I was flying gliders at Blairstown nearby today. I can say that winds were very shifty. Everyone was having trouble where they would pick a runway and winds would unexpectedly shift to tailwind as they were landing. 

[gsengle]

A friend in NJ tells me the 201 that crashed was a rental at Trenton-Robbinsville Airport.

http://www.airmodsflightcenter.com/flight/rental-and-instruction-rates


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[Oscar Avalle]

Always sad to hear these news...


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[neilpilot]

5 minutes ago, gsengle said:

A friend in NJ tells me the 201 that crashed was a rental at Trenton-Robbinsville Airport.

http://www.airmodsflightcenter.com/flight/rental-and-instruction-rates


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May be, but the J they were renting was N301KC.  The N # of the Mooney down starts with 5 and ends with M. Could be they changed rentals?

[bonal]

Its like a punch in the gut when this happens, damn 

[flight2000]

RIP.  Sad and hope the third passenger pulls through with no major long term issues, but the aftermath for that individual is going to be hell from a psychological perspective. 

Could be N526AM...registered in Robbinsville, NJ?  From a video on youtube below, the paint scheme matches.....

Brian

[Piloto]

This sound like the pilot may have tried to land with a tail wind. A risky situation at night for a short runway on a private field with no local winds information. To insure that I am landing against a headwind I verify that my ground speed is lower than my airspeed while on final at 1,000 AGL feet or lower. If not I side step to downwind and land at the opposite end. The passing of a nearby thunderstorm can quickly shift forecasted winds without any warning on AWOS.

José 

[Alan Fox]

1 hour ago, 201er said:

How does that matter? Really sad either way.

I was flying gliders at Blairstown nearby today. I can say that winds were very shifty. Everyone was having trouble where they would pick a runway and winds would unexpectedly shift to tailwind as they were landing. 

I would prefer to have the separation of NOT knowing them......Sucks ass.....

[Jim Peace]

1 minute ago, Piloto said:

This sound like the pilot may have tried to land with a tail wind. A risky situation at night for a short runway on a private field with no local winds information. 

José 

It was daytime afternoon. 

[mike_elliott]

If anyone learns of the contact info for the surviving families, please let me know.

TIA

Mike

[201er]

Just now, mike_elliott said:

If anyone learns of the contact info for the surviving families, please let me know.

TIA

Mike

We're not even sure of the plane yet. And the person flying it doesn't always turn out to be the owner.

[mike_elliott]

We're not even sure of the plane yet. And the person flying it doesn't always turn out to be the owner.

I understand. I am not asking about the plane or owner, but about contact info for the surviving family members once it is learned who they are.

[201er]

I'd be hard pressed to go into sky manor with 3 on board (full size adults). Not only is that runway 2900ft but it's got trees on one end and high power lines on the other. There's no shallow glide path into it from either direction so a tailwind would be devastating. You guys never see me getting gas there. First off cause I don't take the burrito and secondly cause I don't want to be anything more than 200lbs under gross. And even then it's a pretty teeth clenching departure where you familiarize yourself with all the local fauna. Landing there is tough but I can see how going around could be even more of a problem. 

I fly over there for lunch often and we've had many Mooney fly ins there. The airport manager himself keeps his Mooney there. So this hits close to home on so many levels.

[Piloto]

23 minutes ago, Jim Peace said:

It was daytime afternoon. 

Day or night wind is invisible.

[ALP]

I've heard that is the plane and no, the owners were not involved. That's all I know.

[plumberpilot]

It's interesting to me that one can rent a Mooney, what would you guess are the pilot requirements? So sorry to hear of any fatal plane crash. 

[flight2000]

A pilot on another forum stated he had landed just before the accident and said winds were light with a slight x-wind from the right.  He landed on the same runway the Mooney was trying to use and was putting his aircraft back into his hangar when it happened.  Also found another report that claims it was in fact N526AM....

Brian

[carusoam]

http://www.nj.com/hunterdon/index.ssf/2016/09/2_killed_in_plane_crash_at_sky_manor_airport_polic.html

Checking in with the latest from the local paper... (doesn't seem to be any different than the OP)

RIP unknown pilots.

Best regards,

-a-

[N601RX]

There were reports it happened on the 2nd go around attempt. 

[Marauder]

As Mike (201er) pointed out, the winds were shifting a bit today. I experienced a pretty wind shift on my takeoff this afternoon. Sad to read this thread...


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[DXB]

Well that is truly horrible to hear, made no better by being in my back yard.  Pretty sure that is N526AM, which I've seen on the ramp in Robbinsville in the last couple of weeks.  It's registered to a young woman who works there, but I don't know if it's used in the AirMods rental business.  I do know it's not their regular rental J, but that one was down for an engine overhaul I believe over the summer.  

I've landed at Sky Manor maybe a dozen times, always on 25, and for some reason I never seem to have a good landing there,  usually seem to end up long, even though I've handled much shorter strips with no difficulty.  Doesn't matter if it's steady 7kts straight down the runway or 10kts gusting direct crosswind.